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Colorado B.S. Thread

Discussion in 'Colorado' started by Kappes03, Jan 1, 2011.

  1. Aug 11, 2017 at 3:20 PM
    Deathbysnusnu

    Deathbysnusnu Work is just a daily detour to happy hour.

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    882, Dakar, Detroit, 4.88, Warn 9K, Wet Okole, Dog Hair. Addicted Off Road front bumper and sliders. Rucas Built rear bumper 120' synthetic rope, Ultragauge, sway-bar delete,
    I think we can both agree that Smittybilt should drop the M and go with the H.:D
     
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  2. Aug 11, 2017 at 3:26 PM
    thefatkid

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    I've run Warn on all of my rigs, one old Smittybilt. I had one out of 6 Warn winches let me down and the one Smittybilt do the same.

    The failures:

    The Warn is not water proof but does have a drain hole, that hole plugged up and water was allowed to sit in the motor and rust up the contacts. I could have possibly done a ghetto trail repair to get it running again. It was a 9.5xp, motor replacement (from Warn) and re-grease and it worked like new.

    The Smittybilt blew up the engagement hub, possibly because the engagement lever never felt like it had a solid lock in. They didn't offer repair parts and I was out of warranty for that failure (by what they said). There would have been no trail side repair on this failure as it cracked the outer case also.

    I like Warn because of product support. I was able to re-new a winch built in 1987 that was on my old 83 pickup with new-off the shelf parts 4 years ago. They sent me the paper manuals needed for repair and help me decode what year it was built.

    I'm currently running a 9.5ti with Synthetic Rope. It is showing age and could use a re-paint. Works great.
     
  3. Aug 11, 2017 at 3:30 PM
    Gramps

    Gramps My walker is faster than your Prius!

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    Colorado! Where else?
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    Yes, yes we do agree on that.

    Others to be wary of:

    ENGO
    Harbor Freight - I know that a few on here have had awesome success with an HF winch. But they are disposable. No parts available and when you are screwed, you are screwed big.
     
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  4. Aug 11, 2017 at 3:34 PM
    mountainmonkey

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    My understanding is that some recent model lines of Warn winches are really nice and others are not so great. Can anyone enlighten me on which lines are the good ones or have I been misinformed?
     
  5. Aug 11, 2017 at 3:43 PM
    Gramps

    Gramps My walker is faster than your Prius!

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    I haven't see this information myself but as Brett stated it is probably due to the amount of electronics now in winches and the reliance of a wireless remote that a lot of today's end users use. Wireless winching is great and has advantages over a wired remote in some cases, but I would make sure that whatever you purchase has a wired backup remote. I know the ComeUp Gen2 does but I am not sure which Warn models do.
     
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  6. Aug 11, 2017 at 3:44 PM
    thefatkid

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    My 9.5ti is an old design and is very robust. My old M8000 were always great but I consider them undersized for vehicles over 4klbs. I come from the old school winch needs to be very close to 2x the weight of the vehicle. This helps for pulls when you are not on the last line of the spool (where maximum pulling force happens).

    Know that the VR line is the entry level line from Warn. It almost looks like a knockoff of their M lineup. Have heard you don't have access to parts as readily as the traditional lineup.

    I'd keep it simple, the less frills, likely the better it will be in the long run.
     
  7. Aug 11, 2017 at 3:48 PM
    Deathbysnusnu

    Deathbysnusnu Work is just a daily detour to happy hour.

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    The PowerPlant model incorporates an air compressor, I would avoid that, too much crap to fail. Get a good ARB or , lol, a smittybilt compressor :anonymous:
    And there are a few models in the Zeon line, which is quite popular, some use a handheld wireless remote and has no external controls. Avoid that for the reasons I listed.

    https://www.warn.com/truck/winches/line.jsp
     
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  8. Aug 11, 2017 at 3:51 PM
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    Wireless with Smittybilt can be funny when multiple winches are running, they start talking over each other. The Colorado 4x4 recovery guys found that out. They have a bypass though, the new Smittybilts have a controller that is both wireless and wired so if it messes up they can be plugged in.

    Honestly, I was looking at the newest smittybilts because of some of the reviews. If I knew I could get parts, I might look that way harder.

    A winch should be a "vehicle" lifetime purchase. With little maintenance and repair much like owning a vehicle it could last forever. Would you by a car that the day you took it off the lot they stopped making parts for it? This is why I look to Warn. Kinda why I stay away from the newer companies, they are just unknown.
     
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  9. Aug 11, 2017 at 3:52 PM
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    And they weigh 5bazillion pounds. You'll need 800lb springs to haul that heavy bitch around
     
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  10. Aug 11, 2017 at 3:57 PM
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    True story.

    Just for clarification, while ComeUp appears new to the market now they have actually been around for 42 years making winches for other world markets and also manufacture huge industrial winches. They used to make Superwinch which is why the ComeUp name was never in the US market. That agreement went away and Superwinch quality has gone downhill since then. ComeUp has a full supply of parts for new(if needed) and older winches and a full US customer service dept. I needed a outer cone cover for my older DV-9S earlier this year. Had the part in a week.
     
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  12. Aug 11, 2017 at 4:06 PM
    Gramps

    Gramps My walker is faster than your Prius!

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  13. Aug 11, 2017 at 4:07 PM
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    I couldn't hit that "like" button hard enough. :p
     
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    Are you aware of failures with the HF?
    I havent heard of any first hand.
    I have heard first hand accounts of failures with warn, superwinch, smittybilt, etc.
    Granted, that may just be because they're more prevalent?
    I've had mine apart (just because, not due to failure) and everything looked good after years of use, weather, submersion, etc.
    Planetary gears and it hasnt failed me yet. Happy with my purchase.
    If it broke down tomorrow for some reason (I have no reason to suspect it would) I'd probably buy another. I've used it enough and had it long enough that it wouldn't bother me.
     
  15. Aug 11, 2017 at 4:56 PM
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    Finally got my topper!

    IMG_2335.jpg
     
  16. Aug 11, 2017 at 5:05 PM
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    Looks good man! You going to put a rack on the top?
     
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  17. Aug 11, 2017 at 5:30 PM
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    Thats the plan! We shall see was thinking prinsu but ill look at the others a little but 95% sure ill order that.
     
  18. Aug 11, 2017 at 5:45 PM
    jubei

    jubei wishes he was in Moab right now.

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    Looks awesome, Coop!
     
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  19. Aug 11, 2017 at 5:59 PM
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    kashtyaatsi DieselDub

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    Goodbye friend. At least she's staying in the taco family.

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  20. Aug 11, 2017 at 8:06 PM
    Gramps

    Gramps My walker is faster than your Prius!

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    Never stated I had seen a failure. Simply stated they were disposable because there is ZERO parts support. Sort of like buying a Hugo. :D
     

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