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How is the finish on them? I'd like to see those pics when you get time

 

I'll get pics tonight.

 

What's the proper ply for Tacomas?

 

"C" rated 6 ply is what they came with...but honestly..
whatever your back can handle. Abnormal tire wear has nothing to do with the ply rating.

 

Stock tires are actually "P" rated, the softest sidewall and lightest weight

 

Not mine.

 

I have rear 5100s for sale. about 5k on them. PM me up if you're interested.

 

you bought new?

 

What do you mean? Did I replace my stock tires? Yes. My stock tires were a load range C though. That's the way they come on the OR.

 

I dealt with them when I needed to get spare keys for my topper that I purchased used. They looked at it and threw me a set of keys for it and wouldn't take any money. So they get my vote!

 

I got mine new, mine came in "P" load. Mine was an Offroad as well.

 

Load Ratings are alphabetic but you would never get P Load Rated tires. A=2 ply, B=4 ply, C=6 and so on. Passenger car tires are often listed as P for style/model design and then sized much like Light Truck Tires have LT in the size. However, this does not dirctly equate to any particular ply. They may have been P rated for Top Sustained Speed Rating, but this does not correlate to the amount of plies either. It only gives a safety rating top sustained speed for the tire. I have had Passenger Car tires on a truck before but never a full size only compact. They feel great but dont last long and dont hold up on rocks much at all.

 

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I very well aware of load ratings, all I was saying to him was what came on my truck when purchased brand new, had p metric 245/75/16 rugged trail bfgs. And yes, "P metric" have thinner sidewalls than "C" load tires for trucks. They are also the lightest, so they can achieve the best mpg.

 

Mine had 265/75/16 load c. Must've changed it.

 

thanks for explaining

 

Are they extended travel or regular travel?

 

I think you quoted the wrong post. If you are asking about the Icons I think he said standard travel. I'm hoping to be able to go check them out early next week.

 

Have a set of 4 OEM BFG Rugged Trail T/A 265/70R16 that need to get out of my garage. I'm guessing these have about 20 or 25k miles on them, but unsure of the exact mileage. Tread depth is 6/32". I'm located in Longmont. Asking $200.

 

Not exactly how it works. Tire Salesmen are supposed to only sell you the tire load range that best fits with the Car Manufacturer's suggested PSI. The reason is so that you do not accidentally run the improper PSI with too much weight, which will cause tires to wear irregularly or cause damage. Tire Manufacturers work closely with Car Manufacturers to ensure that their design and ratings work best with the suggested load ratings for safety purposes as well as guarantees. That way if you have a problem they will ask you 1) are you following suggested load range? and 2) are you following suggested PSI?. If you are not then it is your problem or the the person who sold you the tires. In my case it was the person who sold me the tires, which is why they replaced my tires. Its a lack of training that causes this and I can tell you that I will never give my business to discount again. They have no problem selling tires that are not designed for certain trucks which could possibly fail and cause serious damage.

I agree, someone can just put whatever tires you want on it as long as your back can handle it. I personally only stick to what is suggested. That way I get the most out of my trucks and its components as well as maintain guarantees and longevity. Besides, the load range "ply" refers to the PSI rating only. Most truck tires are 2 ply sidewall and better ones are made of a durable material or better belting. The E load Duratracs did at one time came in a 3 ply sidewall, but now they do not. So running a higher "ply" will only benefit you if you carry a large amount of weight regularly. Otherwise its probably only going to do you more harm.

If you care to know about the technical detail and math, read on...

Load range refers to the max PSI a tire can handle to reach its max weight load, aka load index. For instance, a goodyear duratrac with load range C (50psi) has a load index of 112 or a max weight of 2469lbs (2470lbs as listed by goodyear). And load range E (80psi) has a load index of 123 or a max weight of 3417 (3415 as listed by goodyear). A tacoma has a dry weight of 4112lbs and the sticker on the door will give you a GWVR which is based on the what the listed tires can handle at the suggested PSI. My truck has a GWVR of 5450 and a suggested PSI of 31 so now the C range tire is going to give me total load of 9,876lbs at 50psi or 6,128lbs at 31 psi. And the E range duratrac is going to give me a total load 13,668lbs at 80psi or 5,188lbs at 31psi. After subtracting dry wight from these wights, that only leaves my truck with 2,016lbs extra for load C and 1,076 extra for load range E. Just between myself and gas, 190lbs+128lbs=318lbs, that doesn't leave me with much weight for other goods with a Load range E. This is why the tires wore irregular, because they were under inflated running too much weight. Now you may ask, "why don't you just add more PSI to get more wight out of the Load range E?". The reason is that the tire manufacturer can not guarantee the consumer or anyone else to handle or service the vehicle will know to adjust the tire inflation based on load range and vehicle weight. Thus why they recommend that you stick to the manufacturers suggested PSI and the tires they have designed to work within the parameters of our trucks, IE load range C. We have too light of trucks to be messing with anything more. Yea I could run higher PSI on a Load range D or E and I know plenty of guys who do, but that is because they carry heavier loads on the regular. I'm perfectly fine running 31psi for regularly weighted 4,612lbs truck (6,128lbs tire load max) which is 38% under inflated and 25% under weight. If I need to carry more weight (within axel and frame max weights) I just pump up the tires accordingly till I hit Max PSI for Max Weight.