Concealed Handgun License - TX

another good cheaper gun for concealment would be highpoint compact 9 or 380... like $140 brand new

 

I've also heard that if you are in the NRA and you ever run into a gun related legal problem they will send down their own lawyers to help you out. They do this to protect gun owners and keep from looking bad. do you know anything about this?

 

I have a glock 23 with tritium sights and the high capacity mags, i love it. never a problem

 

I haven't heard anything about that myself, but I'm sure if it's a high profile case, they would at least have some interest in helping to defend it. On the other hand, if it's a sure loser (i.e. - no way it was self-defense, etc.) I doubt they'd want to help for obvious reasons.

 

That's exactly what I have. Gen 2, I'm told.

 

I got mine the day I turned 21..carrying a Kimber Ultra SP II....bad guys beware!

 

same here, i love mine. i wouldnt trade it for any other gun on the market. its nice to know that no matter what happens it will fire whenyou pull that trigger every time

 

In New York you must prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they were intending to do bodily harm or you were in grave danger (is there any other kind ?) before you pull the trigger, otherwise you could get sentenced to a 3rd degree manslaughter, how messed up is that ? In your own house mind you ?? That's just over the top, I feel I am a well balanced person, right from wrong, good work ethic, pretty moral, understand what it is to be liberal, just not a liberal.

 

you need to move dude. you dont sound like you belong up there anyway. come back to Dixie

 

So you feel that honest law-abiding people should just lay down for criminals?
I beg to differ, a loaded gun pointed in earnest is the best deterrent to crime ever invented. Fate? Thats just victim-speak. If you can't "run from danger" then you better be prepared to meet it head on.

Sorry my first post has to have this tone but I just can't stand it when people turn into Sheeple.

Oh yeah, I'm really glad this forum has a guns and Hunting section.

 

He's not saying that at all. Jedi is pro self defense. he's just saying that a gun does not guarntee safety and if its your time to go, its your time to go.

 

I disagree with you ND. I read every response from concretejedi and every one of them is full of conjecture and hypotheticals. No, you don't shoot someone for stealing your possesions or for screwing your wife, child or goat either. You shoot someone because you have to, either your life or someone else's life is in jeopardy. Proving it is after the fact and I am not going to consult an attorney when faced with a predator. Especially in my own home.

In most states you don't have to back down or retreat when faced with an armed intruder, you have a God given right to self preservation.

I have read every known book on personal self-defense with a firearm and I don't take this lightly. A .357 in a safe box next to the bed and a 12 gauge in secured cabinet in the basement. My wife has the combo for both and has shot the .357 (with .38+P loads) enought to be comfortable and confident with it.

 

O.K tough guy, let me explain something to you. As ND said I am pro self defense, I am not happy the way the laws are, but I do abide by them. Nothing would please me more than to teach these scumbags a lesson. Also I laced up Army boots for 8 years, and I walked the line, M-16 in hand, and for two years pointed it at my "mirror image", Korean soldiers, that's a lot of time to reflect on how killing someone changes the lives of everyone involved, not just his life and his families, but mine as well. It is easy to talk tough on a forum, and it's easy to to make a mistake, but it's not so easy living with one.

 

Oh I'm no tough guy. But I'm not, or will ever be a victim. I abide by the laws of the Peoples Socialist Republic of Illinois, except when I travel into the City of Chicago, my rules apply then. The first rule is that I will go home alive.

I just re-read everything you wrote and it is still full of "what ifs".

I appreciate that you served in the DMZ, protecting the lives of South Koreans.

 

Understand something, most of the time you don't get the choice of being a victim, and as for the DMZ, I didn't see you over there ? Oh yeah you didn't go.

 

I see everybody's side, and damn it would be hard living with killing someone, but it would be much harder living with myself if somone broke in and hurt my family and i had the oppertunity to stop them but didn't.

it is a senerio i hope and pray i am never faced with..... there is no right answer to a wrong situation, all the outcomes suck to an extent.

by the way jedi, thank you for your service!!!

 

LJack, it is with honor and pleasure.

 

Again, go back to what you have said throughout this thread, almost everything is a what if, or you are worried about the moral/legal ramfications.
If you choose to arm yourself you better have considered all of those things ahead of time. Would you really want to be weighing the consequenses in
a now or never situation? You were a trained soldier whose job, when you get right down to it, is to kill the enemy. As a civillian my job is to stay alive. If that means breaking the law from time to time then that is what I will do.
I don't around armed except when I need to and then I am the most pleasant, easygoing guy in the crowd, as not to attract any attention. This is true of most all CCW/CHL folks too. No road rage, no getting drunk and picking fights or going into bad places just because you have a gun and you feel invincible.

The fact that you tried to attack me personally says alot about you. I salute everyone who has ever served our great country, but when you look down your nose at those who haven't it says alot about you too.

 

What ? busting my ass about "protecting the South Koreans" wasn't attacking me ? That was the last thing we were doing over there. There protection was just one of the many things cover by the blanket of American occupation. Yes everything I am righting about is a "what if", I am trying to process a worse case scenario. I am also trying to explain to you is that I had my weapon trained on a human being, he was a bad guy, who had a family, a life outside of pointing his weapon at me, I had orders to kill this man, if some violence broke out, he was a dead man at my hands, that's close. So if you didn't like my comment to you about being there, and not try to understand my reservation about pointing a weapon at another human being, then I suggest you try it, and see if you have a stomach for it.

 

Hey since you can tell the future and know the outcomes in this life I need the scores on the the big game today so I can get a call to my bookie .