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Considering a first gun? Read this to help choose....

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by chris4x4, Sep 5, 2009.

  1. Sep 5, 2009 at 8:24 PM
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    chris4x4

    chris4x4 [OP] With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Moderator

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    Choosing a self defense system Choosing a self-defense system is very personal, and making this choice takes considerable thought and planning. Here are some guidelines to consider, but remember, the ultimate choice is yours.

    Only your life depends on it.
    WEAPON SYSTEM
    Which gun? Actually the answer is pretty simple. The one you will have with you when you need it. Choose the biggest caliber you can comfortable carry and more importantly, will carry. Having an 88 magnum at home is a poor choice when you are having the poop kicked out of you in the parking lot of the local "Stop + Rob". In a crisis, any reliable gun that you have trained with, is better than no gun at all.
    RELIABILITY
    No matter which gun you choose, it is imperative that you fire it on a regular basis. Most guns need some sort of work on them to make them reliable and user friendly. Have this work done by a competent gunsmith. Do only what needs to be done. Keep the system simple and reliable. Remember, only your life depends on it.
    RETENTION SYSTEM
    Carrying a gun should become part of your daily life and also your wardrobe. You may very well need more than one retention device to suit all your needs. You may wear an inside the pants holster during your workday and have to switch to a fanny pack to go with your jeans and T-shirt in the evening. Keep an open mind and find the system that works for you. The system should hold the gun securely in place especially if you are manhandled. It should only require one hand to get a firing grip, and deploy as your other hand may be occupied in fending your assailant off.
    TRAINING
    Without proper training and the mind set that comes with it, your gun can be a liability rather than an asset. We know that under stress we will do one of two things:

    [SIZE=2]1. Freeze: the old familiar "I can't believe this is happening to me" or,[/SIZE]
    [FONT=Arial]2. Reflexively revert to that which we have trained to do.[/FONT]
    Training not only gives you the physical skills necessary to respond to a sudden attack but more importantly, the mind set to defend yourself. The fight is won or lost in your head, way before the real potential fight ever takes place. Go to a recognized training institution and get an education. Remember, only your life depends on it.
    [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][B]The ONLY reason to fight is to WIN.[/B] [/SIZE][/FONT]
     
  2. Sep 5, 2009 at 8:29 PM
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    you american are fucked. sorry not really, but it's nuts how you all carry guns.. in canada, I wouldn't even imagine it.

    One thing i'd like to add about guns, a lot of people don't realize what guns do, if anyone has hunted before you'll understand, that GUNS KILL.

    if you shoot someone, they very well may die, and that's a one time thing, kind of rambling right now, but when you shoot someone and the air stops flowing through their lungs, and their heart stops pumping blood, that shit is real!

    end ramble.
     
  3. Sep 5, 2009 at 8:30 PM
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    chris4x4

    chris4x4 [OP] With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Moderator

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    Thanks for your input? :confused: FWIW, People "Kill". Guns are just a tool doing their job.
     
  4. Sep 5, 2009 at 8:33 PM
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    And when that MF comes through your door and kills you with an illegal firearm, I guarantee you your last seconds on earth are going to be wishing you had a gun...
     
  5. Sep 5, 2009 at 8:35 PM
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    this is what I mean about not even imagining having a gun. just blows my mind. oh well, some great tips here.
     
  6. Sep 5, 2009 at 8:35 PM
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    just cause we're americans doesnt mean we're retarded. i would hope that most people here wouldnt need to use a gun unless its needed in a life or death situation
     
  7. Sep 5, 2009 at 8:36 PM
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    sorry if i offended you guys. there are a LOT of young folks around here, just preaching a little bit that's all.
     
  8. Sep 5, 2009 at 8:37 PM
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    x2!
     
  9. Sep 5, 2009 at 8:37 PM
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    He said we are "Fucked"....Not retarded. ;)
     
  10. Sep 5, 2009 at 8:38 PM
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    Yes sir it is. But they took that decision into their own hands the moment they decided to fuck with 1) me, and 2) my gun.

    It's very real, and very scary, but i would much rather have the ability to fend off an attacker that is trying to hurt/kill/steal from myself or my family.

    Bad decision.

    Oh, and Chris, wonderful info as usual. :D
     
  11. Sep 5, 2009 at 8:39 PM
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    And it's the old folks job to TEACH the younger generation about firearm safety and self defense.

    And I agree with you, I would hope that a young kid doesn't kill someone just because they think it will solve their problems.
     
  12. Sep 5, 2009 at 8:39 PM
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    go preach about somehting, somehwere else fuck head.

    you are so fucking naive, god damnit you make me angry.
     
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    come on guys, you know I wasn't being serious. no need for any of this
     
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    holy ttora!
     
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    dont take it the wrong way, not really trying to piss anyone off. i just thought a lot of firearm safety was common sense. only problem with it is, common sense isnt so much common anymore and people dont use their head before pulling the trigger
     
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    wow who know giving tips on youre first gun purchase could make people so angry i want a gun but for right now im pleased with my bat my pit bull and my bow i firmly believe my family is safe as to when i am gone days at a time when i become a paid ff then yes i will get a gun and she will be properly trained on how to use it and where to shoot to injure not kill well at least not the first shot
     
  18. Sep 5, 2009 at 8:47 PM
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    Yeah? I make a post with some solid info for someone to read before purchasing a firearm, and you respond "you american are fucked", then get hurt because Brian calls you nieve?
     
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    guns dont kill people, people kill.


    blaming guns for deaths is like blaming spoons for Rosie ODonnell beign a fat disgusting bleeding heart liberal blob of uselessness.


    get it straight dickhead.
     
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    Thanks. :)
     
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