Correct brake pads?

Those are cooling vains, not vents. His are dimpled and slotted for brake gas escape.

 

If you need a real, as in greater than 10%, change in braking force I’d recommend doing a calliper and rotor size upgrade. Their is a kit from stoptech or you can also swap in 4Runner front brakes (there’s a thread on here you can search for on how to do it).

Cheap pad swaps are not going to yield you the results you desire.

 

Tomato, Tomatoe.

Brake outgas issue hasn't been relevant in the auto industry since Trump had real hair.

 

His are dimpled and slotted because people think it looks neat. It doesn't do anything besides degrade your braking performance.

Dimpled is slightly preferable to drilled, though. All drilling does is make the rotors crack faster.

 

Good to know , I appreciate the advice. If I am off-roading to the point my rotors break I have bigger issues

 

Sounds like you are mistaken.

 

I care nothing about looks. I had them on my last tacoma and they worked amazing for cooling. Heat degrades breaking power and glazes pads

 

The only way to make your rotors cool better is to duct air to them in some way. Sorry, but them's the facts. Bigger/heavier rotors give you a larger initial heat capacity, though.

Out of curiosity, what did it feel like when you "glazed your pads?" as far as difference in braking capacity?

 

Why would engineers design/make they make them if they didn't cool better, why have them at all? Isn't that why the grooves are called "cooling veins"

To answer your question, I don't think I glazed them. I just couldn't stop going downhill with the pedal all the way down, I was creeping and I could light a match off my rotors. They stop fine now, I am just looking for a little more without spending big buck$

 

Because engineers like to make money like everyone else? It's like you're asking about the entire history of marketing, all in one go. I hate to break it to you, but there's a lot of products in the world that do not do what they claim to do.

Spongy pedal to the floor means you boiled your brake fluid, by the way. Buy better brake fluid and/or actually change it every six months/year like we all should.


Brake "outgassing" is also not a thing on brakes. People thought it was what was screwing up drum brakes, so they drilled the brake shoes to let them "outgas." That didn't do anything about the fictional outgas, but it did frequently help because it let air flow through the drum better, letting them cool.

 

so the other is green yellow and then orange?

 

If you're working your brakes hard enough to heat them up, you could also be overheating your brake fluid. I used to have mechanics swear to me that DOT 3 was more than enough, but I always overheated it and pretty much lost braking until it cooled down. DOT4 is better. DOT 5 even better and I put Super Blue Racing Fluid in the 911 and have never had an issue there.

 

I had EBC Green Stuff pads >15 years ago and thought they were terrible.

When my Tacoma needs new pads, it will get OEM. Aftermarket pads are rarely better for a daily driver in my experience.

 

Try Castrol SRF. It is expensive, but worth it.

 

Holy thread revival Batman.

 

Don’t use DOT 5 in a Tacoma. You can’t purge the 2nd gen, I assume the third gen is similar, master cylinder completely by design without access to a techstream and mixing DOT 3/4 with DOT 5 will sludge the system potentially leading to a no brake situation. DOT 3 and 4 are glycol based and compatible. DOT 5 is silicon based. You can’t mix the two types.

I’ve never had problems with DOT 3 in my Tacoma. Honestly I’m still running EBC Yellows and I’m very happy with them. If I wanted any better performance I wouldn’t Mickey Mouse around with small changes. I’d just man up and buy an upgraded 6 piston caliber/rotor from one of the big brake kit manufacturers. Plenty of options for upgrading the Tacoma brakes now. You can even do read discs with a Sequoia master cylinder.

 

How the yellows I got orange instead. Truck is pretty heavy and a lot of hills on the trail. Brakes faded on me once and I don’t want to experience that again.