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Corroded Frame Class Action Suit Information

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by ryanfamily3, Mar 21, 2016.

  1. Mar 21, 2016 at 8:25 AM
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    ryanfamily3

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    CLASS ACTION INOFORMATION: Milligan Law (479) 783-0121 milliganlaw@sbcgloabl.net

    There is a class action pending. if you have a rusted frame or even if you have traded your unsafe vehicle in due to the rusted frame please contact the law firm above. Get your name name added and pass on the information.

    Bill Milligan stated that the end result they are looking for is to have Toyota buy back the effected vehicles.
     
  2. Mar 21, 2016 at 10:00 AM
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    Is that for 2009+ people or everybody. 2005-2008 trucks are getting their frame replaced so probably will not get anything extra here.
     
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    It is for the 2005-2009 trucks because not all of them are getting their frames replaced... trust me. I have a 2006 and they will not replace the frame. I would encourage anyone that is having this problem to call regardless of year or what you ended up doing with the truck. If you traded it because it was unsafe still call. At the very least you could be used as a witness to help others who are stuck with broken frames or unsafe vehicles.
     
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    Looks like the guy that started the class action lawsuit is promoting it here..... -__- scum.
     
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    :notsure: If it helps other people along with himself, I don't see the bad side of it? if I were pushing to have Toyota cover my frame and I needed back up, id sure as shit try to spread the word here!
     
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    Hey, if it gets a few frames replaced or bought back that should have been and haven't...I am all for it.
     
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    I posted the information about the class action but I am not the one who initiated the suit BUT I have been effected by Toyota's lack of response on the frame issue. If having an unsafe vehicle because the frame is corroded and therefore Toyota wont replace the recalled leaf springs (they could puncture the fuel tank) makes me scum then I accept the title with pride!

    Would you let your kid drive in a vehicle where the frame is compromised and there is a danger that another corroded piece of the vehicle could puncture the fuel tank? Maybe you have thousands of dollars to waste on a vehicle that basically becomes a paperweight but most of us don't. If this information helps anyone and keeps someone from getting hurt because of a defective frame them please call me whatever name you want to.

    The frames are an ongoing issue with Toyota. They settled with Dana Corp. for $25M on a previous frame issue. The lawyer says they are still using Dana Corp frames. The leaf springs are being recalled due to a corrosion issue... anyone see a pattern here?
     
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    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    Oh I was lucky, I got my frame replaced. So I am set, but I heard 2009+ trucks are having that problems now, and some of the 2005-2008 trucks got missed (like your case)
    I was not sure if its limited to years, also if that lawyers is starting class action for that, is any chance he is including more Toyota cars ? 2008+ Sequoia get their rear panel eaten by rust where A/C drain is and Toyota will not do anything so thats another class action to get rolling.
    Whats the Facebook page link ?
    Good luck.
     
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    You have every right to sue them .... Sue them until they run out of the money... :thumbsup:
    they either need to learn how to paint their vehicles or label them (California only)
     
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    It's called Toyota Frame Corrosion and I would call lawyer regardless of year or make or model of vehicle. At least they can gather the information if it is outside of the scope of this class action. We don't truly know how widespread this problem is... especially if they are using frames for other vehicles manufactured by Dana Corp.
     
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    Was the picture you posted on your facebook page, a picture of your sons frame corrosion, that will not pass inspection? If is was, I have the same year Tacoma, that was coated with CRC earlier than your sons and the CRC is still there. Maybe I'm not seeing the whole frame, but it looks like that frame was never sprayed with CRC. I would go on Toyotaowners.com and enter the vin to see if your sons Tacoma ever had the LSC done.
     
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    I put this on ignore as soon as this was written

    "The lawyer says they are still using Dana Corp frames."

    your lawyer is an idiot ...Toyota does not use Dana frames any more
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    finally, Toyota already settled this issue with the Feds with the 1.5 over bluebook buyback program
    a few years back, and now they have a frame replacement / frame coating program.
     
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    As far as I know it's a different company, or so we think. The company is just a subcompany which was bought out by Dana Corp.

    So it's still Dana.
     
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    What the FUCK are you talking about ? The frames are made by Metalsa http://www.metalsa.com/
    which is 25 times the size Dana ever was.

    Metalsa is fucking gigantic

    2009

    • Dana sells its structural products business which includes 10 manufacturing plants to Metalsa, approximately 2,800 workers were shifted to Metalsa.
    Dana does not exist in framemaking
     
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    WOW, you need to seriously chill dude, we can discuss this without dropping the F-bomb. If you put your facts out there, it should be enough to get your point across.
     
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    This ^^^^

    @127.0.0.1 that makes sense. If it's no longer Dana anymore then that's awesome, but seriously , what @Markcal said. We are all adults here who can have civilized conversation right?
     
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    So much misinformation here.

    Dana sold it's frame-making sites to Metalsa in 2009 as part of Dana's bankruptcy proceedings.

    Toyota had the buyback program going for 1996-2000 Tacos only. Residual value on 2001-2004 Tacos were still high enough that Toyota only did frame replacements for those.

    These class-action suits are designed to funnel millions of dollars to the lawyers, that's it. Likely outcome for owners is the frame warranty will be extended to 15 years for affected trucks, that's it, something Toyota would probably do anyway in the absence of a lawsuit.
     
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    What I don't understand and haven't gotten an answer from Toyota yet, is why the 2001-2004 Tacoma's were given a 15 year warranty on their defective frames, when 2005-2008 Tacoma's, that have the same defective frames, made by the same company, doesn't get the warranty extension.

    There were 2007 Tacoma's failing inspection in 2014, with a perforation to the frame and having to be taken off the road, so you have a 7 year old Toyota Tacoma, that is basically a giant paper weight. What is the difference between Toyota replacing 2005 Tacoma leaf springs, which were over 11 years old for being defective, to not replacing frames that are defective. Toyota was never given a 25 million settlement for the defective leaf springs, but are still recalling them and will be spending 924.3 million to do it or close to 1 billion.

    You could say the 2005 Tacoma leaf springs are over 11 years old and all trucks in some places in our nation, Anywhere you have heavily salted roads and salty air from the sea you have this problem, but Toyota knows the leaf springs are defective, like they know the frames are defective and should also be recalled in my opinion. I feel at the minimum, if they aren't going to recall the frames, they should at least offer the 2nd generation Tacoma's, what was given to the same frame made by the same company of the 2001-2004 Tacoma's, by offering people a 15 warranty on defective frames, in my opinion is just telling owners that we "Toyota", stands behind are product and it's reputation as being a reliable /high quality vehicle, which as owners we all paid a premium for.
     
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    I agree with you that class-action lawsuits, will make millions for the lawyers, while the Tacoma owners will get mere pennies.

    I was told by the service manager when I had the LSC done, that "Toyota will not offer a 15 warranty like the previous year Tacoma's". I don't know if I will have a frame perforation before the 15 year mark, but I feel that Toyota should give owners of defective frames that much at least. It would give a little peace of mind, that I won't have a giant paper weight 6 months from now.
     
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    The purpose of the class action that is posted at the beginning of this thread is to address the frames on tacomas newer than 2000. Yes, they settled with Dana Corp and bought back 1996-2000 but they frames they are still using for newer ones (2006) are defective and customers are stuck... that's just not right. Are they still using Dana Corp frames? That's what I've been told. Regardless of whether they are still using frames made by Dana Corp or not Toyota has a pattern of problems with their frames. And now they leaf springs are being recalled for rust. Sounds like a related problem to me.

    For anyone who thinks that its enough that Toyota apply the CRC to their rusting frame... Beware. They did it to mine and a year later it's even worse so Toyota washes their hands and says too bad so sad. They should stand behind their product.
     
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