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Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Stillfly199, Mar 20, 2009.

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  1. Mar 20, 2009 at 8:29 PM
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    Ok, so all these abbreviations are driving me crazy. UCA stands for upper control arm I think.... Am I right? I read that if you have a 3" lift you need new UCA's.... What about a 3" leveling kit? What exactly are the 5100's everyone is talking about? Im assuming they are some type of shock? Are leveling kits really that bad if you offroad? I dont hard core off road, but I do like to get it muddy from time to time.
     
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  2. Mar 20, 2009 at 8:29 PM
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    Hit submit too early, any help would be awesome, thanks guys.
     
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  3. Mar 20, 2009 at 8:29 PM
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    Yep, UCA is upper control arm
     
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  4. Mar 20, 2009 at 8:33 PM
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    There are 2 types of spacer/leveling kits
    1 is a spacer on top of the shock "top plate". This is bad, as it can cause breakage off road. It will also wear out your ball joints pretty quick
    2. a "Pre load spacer", goes inside teh shock/spring assembly and adds Preload to the spring to give lift. The ride can be a bit more stiff

    The 5100's people are talking about are an adjustable shock eith 4 pre set height settings. stock, .85", 1.74", and 2.5". It is adjusted via a circlip under the spring seat. Though it does preload teh spring to achieve lift, the ride characteristic is better as the shock is valved for the new spring rate (from adding preload to the spring)
     
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  5. Mar 20, 2009 at 8:34 PM
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    Other options are a "Coilover kit" for the 5100's that adds a threadded adjuster, and a different spring.
    Then you have OME (Old Man Emu) replacement springs and shocks. Their springs are availible in different rates rangeing from 590lbs to 650 lbs. (stock is 540#)
     
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  6. Mar 20, 2009 at 8:38 PM
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    And then you have "Coilovers" which is kind of a misnomer as all the front shock/springs on the front of Tacomas are a Coilover, as the "Coil" goes "over" the shock......Anyway......Most Coilovers are adjustable, rebuildable, and come with a 650# spring rate.
    Leepers and the "Toytec" coilovers come with a 600# rateed spring.
    Coilovers are also rebuildable
     
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    So the spacer looks like it is in between the bracket and on top of the coil. Sorry but i've never been very mechanically inclined.
     
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  8. Mar 20, 2009 at 8:40 PM
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    Though its not a Tacoma, hopefully you will understand:

    This is a "Top Plate spacer

    [​IMG]
     
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  9. Mar 20, 2009 at 8:41 PM
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    better pic
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    This is a Preload spacer

    [​IMG]
     
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  11. Mar 20, 2009 at 8:42 PM
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    Ya, that looks like what I have on my truck. It has the coil over that and then the top of that bolts to the bracket. This is the "bad" set-up right? Sorry for so many questions, I just dont want to mess up my truck.
     
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  12. Mar 20, 2009 at 8:43 PM
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    Sorry, I was referring to the top pic as to what I have on my truck.
     
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  13. Mar 20, 2009 at 8:44 PM
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    Welll...yeah. It lengthens the strut assembly and that can cause over extension of the front components.....ball joints, and even the shock it self.
     
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    I just went to the revtek site and looked at the kit and it says it comes with pre-load spacers. I'm still guessing this is the not good one. If you were to go with what all would you have to get to go with it?
     
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  15. Mar 20, 2009 at 8:51 PM
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    Being as your truck is a double cab, get the 885 springs. You will need new shocks, either the Bilstien 5100's or OME n140s.
     
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  16. Mar 20, 2009 at 8:56 PM
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    Ok, and new UCA's right?
     
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  17. Mar 20, 2009 at 9:01 PM
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    To get the alignment to spec, and have a bit better ride, yes.

    Also, if you go with the OME shocks, get a trim packer for the driver side. Its a 5mm spacer that adds a little preload to the driver side to account for the extra weight of the tank, driver and battery.
     
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  18. Mar 20, 2009 at 9:03 PM
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    You callin me fat? lol thanks for all your help. I will probably switch the lifts out when fire season is here when I have a little more coin in my pocket.
     
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  19. Mar 20, 2009 at 9:04 PM
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    LOL, cool. keep us posted! :)
     
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