Creationism vs. Evolution

Still aren't used by evolution science to describe the process. You claimed they do, but it's only how you choose to describe it using insulting language.

 

Wrong...My actions acknowledge my moral accountability. Belief in God doesn't...AT ALL for the simple fact that plenty of "God fearing" folks fail MISERABLY on the moral front (Westboro Baptist, McVeigh, priests who have touched little boys, etc)

 

Trust me. I regard your childish denial of the intelligently ordered design of physical laws upon which you are completely dependent for your own existence in much the same way.

 

The issue is that I'm tired of the God fan club always working to impose their beliefs on me that they are right and they need to pray for me because I am wrong and need to be saved. Saved from what? Some vision of an afterworld that other humans have concocted? Saved from my current situation that "he" allegedly allowed me to be in in the first place? :/

So, if you're praying to God to get your 3 hours over with at the dealership, I thought your God doesn't answer those types of specific requests and that he just works on his own terms? Doesn't it seem futile? Wouldn't it just seem a coincidence if all of a sudden your dealership visit ended on a good note and you give all the glory to God instead of just writing it off to pure coincidence? Why give credit to something that got you stuck in that position in the first place? Seems like quite the paradox.

Well wishes are completely different than prayers. Well wishes mean that you personally care for me. Prayers mean that you may care, but that you think your God has to get involved like it's some favor. If you're the new world sorcerer who somehow has the power to harness God's powers into your prayer, then show yourself unto me and demonstrate what God can do for me based on your prayers that he hasn't been able to do for me in the past 40 years on his own.

 

Yes , I agree

 

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Originally Posted by tooter
Good. It's best to be perfectly clear about your view that man came about by dumb blind stupid mindless chaotic random chance.

There's a concrete reason behind the choice either to acknowledge or to deny God. To acknowledge God is to also acknowledge man's personal moral accountability for his behavior. While to deny God is to also deny personal moral accountability.

Each of those two freely made choices brings its own set of consequences along with it. The denial of accountability to moral law has absolutely no effect upon getting what is deserved as the natural consequences that follow every action.[/quote]

Everyone is personally accountable for their own behavior to exactly the same moral law regardless of what they believe.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYtML5nzlG0

 

What 2000+ sources ?

 

Trust me. I regard your childish belief in the magic man in the sky in much the same way that I regard a child believing in santa.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSH_riW7V8s

 

No , I think you're dumb and blind too

 

Mark, we've already been there, about 1,000,000 post ago.

Whu....Huh? What are you implying? Don't bring Santa into this!

 

With the denial of God comes the denial of any objective standard of right and wrong. By default, it then comes down to just your own subjective opinion of what you ~think~ is right and wrong.

Even people who do what's wrong ~think~ they're doing what's right.

 

I just realized that this is the ultimate TW troll thread

 

watch "expelled no intelligence allowed" very good movie... here is a link to the movie on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5EPymcWp-g

you wouldn't drive by and see a house and say wow thats a really nice house must have just pop'ed up out of no where... um no there was a desighner and builder that made that house. same with this planet it did not just pop up out of no where had to be an intelegent creator behind it!! way to many beautiful and wonderful creations to be here because of chance

 

You're an idiot

I deny that's the first time I've said that

 

Lol

 

OK, you're right. I'm convinced. So is eveyone else. Thanks. No need to keep repeating it.

Really? Just now?

 

It would bear no value to me whatsoever. Humility is supposed to be part of Christianity, but I see so few humble Christians. Car stickers advertising which church they are a member of, posting on FB talking about "my prayers go out to ...." like they are even really praying.

If someone is secretly praying for me, don't ever tell me. Keep it to yourself and exercise the humility that you're supposed to be. I'll handle the cranky service manager like a man and get the issue resolved myself.