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Creationism vs. Evolution

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by Agent475, Oct 28, 2008.

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Creationism vs. Evolution (Not Public)

  1. Creationism

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  2. Evolution

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  3. Lil 'O Both

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  4. Neither

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  1. Jul 8, 2013 at 4:27 PM
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    BZP56

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    Two questions they refuse to answer:

    1) Where did god come from? Who made him? You've already stated how something cannot come from nothing?

    2) Without quoting your own religion, how do you know that your religion is the right one versus the thousands that are out there?

    Seriously. Tooter? Price? Random-kid-who-posts-run-on-sentences-and-likes-MGM? I'm honestly curious what your answers are to these questions.
     
  2. Jul 8, 2013 at 4:28 PM
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  3. Jul 8, 2013 at 4:31 PM
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    scocar

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    You got the fertilizer part right.
     
  4. Jul 8, 2013 at 4:32 PM
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    and most of it is maple syrup flavored.... sorry flavoured
     
  5. Jul 8, 2013 at 4:32 PM
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    What you expressed is a perfectly normal way to regard others who affirm the reality of What you deny. :)

    I won't hold that against you OZ, because I simply choose not to be offended like some of the overly word sensitive secularists around here. ;)
     
  6. Jul 8, 2013 at 4:35 PM
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    How about you just answer my two questions. They are posted above.
     
  7. Jul 8, 2013 at 4:38 PM
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    BZP56

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    Oh goddess, another one that hates grammar and punctuation... Truly remarkable.
     
  8. Jul 8, 2013 at 4:38 PM
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    You're correct. In the beginning belief in God is exactly that. But over time faith becomes a direct personal experience of knowing. And knowing is non transferrable.
     
  9. Jul 8, 2013 at 4:41 PM
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    damn... couldn't find a version with lyrics and the red bouncy ball... would probably help in this thread

    http://youtu.be/h3E80_jzMhI
     
  10. Jul 8, 2013 at 4:48 PM
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    x2, there is no way this tooter fella is actually serious right now.
     
  11. Jul 8, 2013 at 4:57 PM
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    These are very simple questions to which I'm happy to offer answers. Just understand right up front that they're not answers to secularists.

    God, by definition, is That which is Unmade. The Uncaused Effect. The Unmoved Prime Mover. God exists outside of time space and matter. God is not physical creation. He is not even the highly intelligent order of physical laws which govern all time space matter energy and life.

    Not quite true...

    I've said that humans cannot make something come from nothing. We are completely subjective beings who exist totally within causality.

    I know that the religion I chose is right for me...

    ...because following it's moral principle of doing what's right has literally made my life a Paradise just like God promised it would be to anyone who loves Him enough to do His will. :) People have no idea of how good life can be just by doing what's morally right. Acting rightly opens a floodgate of beneficial consequences which flow into your life until you're floating in goodness.

    And I have no problem with what others choose to believe as long as they're decent folk. There's a great quote by Viktor Frankl, a survivor of the Nazi death camps:

    "There are only two races... the decent and the indecent." :thumbsup:
     
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    hey i wasnt good in english class okay:D:D!! lol

    i believe in intelligence design haha and hate how nothing but evolution is taught in our schools. doesn't have to be about god. but that there was an intelligent designer behind this place we live. and it least be considered.

    evolutionist cant explain how life started. there theory's are base on when life was already here... not how it originated..
     
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    So are you dead? Because I thought the paradise part came after you die. Or are you undead?
     
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    Biggest cop-out from you who pitches intelligent design.

    Suddenly a creator is just there, and always has been. :rolleyes:
     
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    Holy jebus that was painful.
     
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    If evolution is not taught in church why should creation (church) be taught in school? Creation just isn't science. I dont object to teaching the problems with evolution but teaching creation is in fact teaching religion.
     
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    Yes.

    Absolutely. :)

    I am a totally subjective being. Even my reactions to objective truth (God) are wholly subjective.

    Now... my subjective responses can either affirm the reality of objective truth... or deny the reality of objective truth.

    But I cannot be that objective truth.

    I can only choose to subjectively agree with It.
     
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    This is the "definition" of imaginary and unreal....
     
  19. Jul 8, 2013 at 5:26 PM
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    And we are each getting exactly what we deserve in our lives regardless of our views. ;)

    Just a clarification.
    I don't believe in God.
    I know He exists.
     
  20. Jul 8, 2013 at 5:28 PM
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    Yes. I already said that is not an answer for secularists. You already found your own answer and are welcome to it and all of its consequences.
     
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