cv install question

Quick question. I am in the process of installing the driver axle. Everything spins fine when the axle is just loose in the hub assembly, but when I start to torque the axle nut to about 100 ftlbs, I can hear the rubber seal rubbing on the hub face. Sorry for the noob question, but is that normal? Will that go away when I am at the final torque or is something off that needs to be fixed?

I need to run and get a bigger torque wrench, I apparently lent mine out and it hasn't returned yet. That's the only reason I am asking.

Big thanks to the earlier response about cv axles, hoping this is the last of my confusion.

 

The only rubber seal I know of is the one on the back side of the spindle.
One in the spindle, and one on the CV. They do "rub" each other a little. It helps keep water out of the hub assembly.

As for the "hub face", I don't know what you mean?
A picture might help.

 

I'll put it back together and get a video of what I am hearing. But once the rubbing noise, which sounds like rubber on metal or rubber on rubber starts, the hub doesn't spin as freely as before the noise starts.

Edit: I do appreciate your help through this.

 

Did you replace the seal on the back side of the hub by chance?

 

I did not. Still was really pliable. Just cleaned it up and added some grease to the lip

 

Ok, When I did mine, The seal was loose in the knuckle. It wanted to "spin" in the knuckle.
I took a punch and made the lip that goes into the knuckle, flare out. This made it fit tight.
My advice now is, Use an OEM seal. Aftermarket doesn't always fit "right".

In your case, take a look at the axle where it goes into the back of the hub. See if that is where noise is coming from.
As you tighten the cv nut, you are pulling the axle into the hub.
Maybe the seal on the CV is not seated all the way? And this is causing it to "stick".
That's really the only thing that could make a "rubber" sound that I know of?

 

I see what you mean. I'll retry that. I shouldn't have said hub face. The only contact point of the spinning axle and stationary object is that seal on the back of the knuckle.

 

Yeah, that's about the only place I know of that can cause your issue.
Let us know if you figure it out.

 

Technically, you are preloading (squeezing) the the hub assembly when you tighten the CV nut.
But that's how it is designed. (and why torquing it to spec is crucial)
If you are using the same hub, I don't see how that is the issue.
Maybe on a new hub that was built wrong. But never seen it myself.

 

Here's a video of what it sounds like when I am at about 100'lbs.

https://youtube.com/shorts/_GtYCaTq0ck?si=OpKmIcYq57gwknOE

 

I am an idiot. Its the wheel bearing. Wasn't doing this as audibly before:

https://youtube.com/shorts/afUHtsGAulY?si=DJTkHHbI6gbUcMRr

The rotor and caliper are off at the moment, so the only thing spinning is the hub assembly.

 

Doesn't sound too healthy.
I'd be looking at a new hub assembly.

 

Yeah, I am doing that right now. Guess this will get finished tomorrow.

Edit: thanks again for all the help.

 

If you are buying local, I've heard NAPA sells assemblies with SKF bearings.

 

I saw your post in another thread, so I looked at that. Problem is napa wants 370 after the june 20% discount. Rock auto is 230 all in. Guess I wait until tuesday. I was so focused on that stupid needle bearing, I wasn't paying attention to anything along the way. Lesson learned.

 

Thanks for all the help today. Ordered those SKF hub assemblies for both sides, so just getting everything ready so I can throw on and be done. I think I need to get the seals and o-ring for the knuckles though so getting part numbers together. With the axle inserted in the knuckle on that driver side one that's been so fun, I can hear the seals just making noise rotating the axle. I am guessing I just got rust crap into the seals taking things apart, so might was well start fresh. But the seal on the outer CV is not great, it's a bit chewed up. the plate that covers the seal is rusted to no end as well. It looks like its pressed on to the outer CV joint. Does anyone know the right part number? I found 90301-A0001, but I can't see a picture to confirm if that can be replaced.

 

I will be doing my 09 cv this weekend.
These are the parts I ordered:
Type T Oil Seal
$16.15
90311-47027
Dust Seal
$27.51
90304-A0001
Front Drive Shaft Assembly
$352.71
43430-04071

 

Thanks! the dust seal is what I might need, but that one looks like its in great shape for me. The one I am looking at getting is on the cv shaft itself. Seems redundant since the knuckle has that dust seal you mentioned.

 

I guess I will find out. I can return what I dont use.

 

I wish I planned better like you. Took thins apart to install that ecsg bushing and then found some issues.