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D-4D in the U.S. sometime soon?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by Phil Dammit, Apr 26, 2012.

  1. Apr 26, 2012 at 10:13 PM
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    I would buy a diesel Tacoma in an instant. This is my 1st gas engine in 14 years and I find it somewhat in need of more torque. Diesel would do the trick!
     
  2. Apr 27, 2012 at 3:25 PM
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    Exactly

    Diesels dont need revs because they build the nec torque sooner. And you obviously dint read any euro car magazines. Almost all of the tuner guys go diesel because you can build y the motors without tearing into the internals.

    Your logic I'd wacked, explain then why all freight vehicles that run on diesel refuel if the nec fuel is not available. You do know that the first internal combustion engine ran on diesel right, produced by rudolph diesel. And you don't need to be towing to see the advantages of diesel, why are there diesel options for passenger cars? Could go on and explain the power advantages and mpgs of the new ML350 but your mindset is obviously to dilutional to comprehend. Btw diesels have been cool in the EU since the 80's.
     
  3. Apr 27, 2012 at 3:30 PM
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    Lol nicer than a 3 series for 35k, troll. btw audi won le mans with a diesel. 1-2 finish if i'm nut mistaken.
     
  4. Apr 27, 2012 at 3:31 PM
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  5. Apr 27, 2012 at 3:37 PM
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    No, I hate those! :mad:

    If Toyota could put the d4d in the Taco at a reasonable price, I'd buy one for the longevity of the engine along with the towing abilities, fuel economy being a nice perk but the fuel is more expensive so I don't know how much of a gain you'd really be getting. That being said, I would imagine a diesel would come with an additional $5k price increase which would make it a tough sell against full sized trucks.
     
  7. Apr 27, 2012 at 4:06 PM
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    $2K less than I paid for mine
     
  8. Apr 27, 2012 at 5:19 PM
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    G37, I just fell out of my chair lol. Going on about bro'd out diesel toy haulers and your first choice is every middle aged american's choice in car..... And no the M class doesn need the diesel at all, just produces more power and mid to high 30 mpg's with the cleanest burning diesel yet. What podunk town do you live in that diesel isn available everywhere? Are you somehow stuck in the middle ages but are still able to get on the ol'interwebz?

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    Yeah, there are 4 on the lot at Right Toyota here in Scottsdale. Double cab TRD's going for 51k.... 35k-38k is the base for most bone stock double cabs....
     
  9. Apr 27, 2012 at 7:44 PM
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    i work for a manufacture,and i can tell you that diesels engines are being pushed a lot harder then you think?that includes toyota.ford,chevy,dodge.it will be the future.a diesel will get better mpg,last 400,000 miles longer,and that will make up the difference for the extra weight and fuel cost.
     
  10. Apr 27, 2012 at 8:07 PM
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    Not another one of these threads. :annoyed:
     
  11. Apr 27, 2012 at 10:18 PM
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    There are more reasons to want revs than just power, as I said before, it's nice to be able to hold a gear for more than 2 seconds because you're on the redline at 5k.

    Also the 2rz is a good example of a gas engine capable of the same thing as far as building/boosting goes...
     
  12. Apr 28, 2012 at 11:10 AM
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    I'll take a Diesel German plane anytime of the day just because it can do this

    http://www.streetfire.net/video/top-gear-season-10-ep-9-pt-1_639609.htm

    Alright "Trump" troll where are the facts that you base your claims on? Diesel is readily available at 9/10 stations here in PHOENIX. One of the larger west coast cities. as for your claim that their are more gas then diesel. Where do you base your claim. Here' s a link to settle your score. http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/alternative-fuel/diesel/4330313

    I have to say ignorance must be bliss.

    Explain to me how waiting till you redline is worth it in the long run? Most motors produce their maximum torque and hp before redline. Its comon racing 101. The 2tr, for example, produces peak at around 4700rpm. If the car produces the power faster with quicker gear changes does that not equate to faster times.... depedent on road conditions and driver of coarse.

    And no, to properly build a 2RZ to take the added fuel and air of turbocharging you have to strip down the internals to take the added abuse, change compression ratio, intake manifold, fuel load etc. etc. Gets costly fast. Diesel motors are built from the factory with reinforced materials in order to take the abuse of the non spark fed combustion. It's why you see so many "Bro's" building diesel trucks because it only takes some bolt on's and a flash to build big numbers. On top of the fact that the diesel will outlast its gasoline counterpart.
     
  13. Apr 28, 2012 at 11:15 AM
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    well played troll, well played
     
  14. Apr 28, 2012 at 11:30 PM
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    I agree that if all you're looking for is economical travel, diesel is great in a car. but for fun you can't beat reving to 7500RPM, I guess it's just personal preference.

    Also lots of people run the 2rz on stock internals up to some pretty impressive power numbers. Not sure what those numbers are, nor do I care enough to look them up so I won't specify.
     
  15. Apr 28, 2012 at 11:46 PM
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    anyone had the D4-D diesel conversion done?
     
  16. Apr 28, 2012 at 11:47 PM
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    Id like a d4d option in my tacoma. i would try it.
     
  17. Apr 29, 2012 at 1:17 AM
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    Me too!

    Then again I'm in school to be a diesel mechanic so...
     
  18. Apr 29, 2012 at 9:16 AM
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    A lot of the comments in this thread seem to be based on older design diesel motors. The new, more modern engines are pretty bad ass.

    A good example are the Sprinters. They come with 3L 6's that make 188HP and 352ft pounds of torque. Not bad for a cargo van that gets 25MPG. By comparison, a Tacoma is 4L, 236HP and 186ft pounds of torque and gets 21/25mpg.

    Granted, a Sprinter isn't a Tacoma so it's not a fair comparison but it does tell you that diesel engines are capable.
     
  19. Apr 29, 2012 at 10:50 AM
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    You're right. I fat fingered the number. It should be 266.

    Regardless, my point remains the same. Today's diesel motor compares very well with a similar gasoline motor.
     
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