D-4D in the U.S. sometime soon?

I was an MB tech for four years. I worked in the industry so I have a different insight on them but have been raised on diesel so yes my perspective is a bit polar. But I cant help that you sound like an idiot

 

Never said they did... You asked what the specs were on my Tacoma. Based on Mythbusters, that means if I take the shell off I could do even better on the MPG's meaning I'd be consistently over 20.

I agree with you that a diesel engines are overall better however they're not the solution for everything... Figure a D4D Tacoma will get 25 MPG, hell, even assume it will get 30 MPG. Compare that against our current Tacomas that get 20 MPG and figure out how long it would take to soak up the initial cost differential in fuel savings. Keep in mind that diesel is more expensive than regular 87 in a lot of areas. Couple that with even slightly increased maintenance costs and it's no longer cost effective to buy a diesel unless you need it to tow and haul frequently. Now ask yourself, if you tow and haul regularly, why would you get a Tacoma over a full sized truck?

I agree with Whipper, you need to look at both sides objectively. A diesel option would be tits on a Tacoma but, in all honesty, even if they did come to the US, I don't know as if I'd buy one until I could pick one up used in a few years.

 

If you think about it, there really isn't good reason to not have a diesel option. Whats wrong with opening up the market to some potential buyers (Diesel bros, boat owners, camper owners, fleets.) I think that if there was a diesel option it would allow for people to have a choice between a larger mid size truck with better mpg than a heavy duty 1ton truck. I think the problem is that if you did put a diesel in a tacoma, Toyota wouldnt sell any tundras. They are already struggling to sell them now. They need to have that market share. So until they make a 1ton Tundra with a larger diesel, It just doesnt make sense for them to offer one.

 

If the guy wants a diesel, let him want a diesel. He obviously knows the pros, and cares little about the cons.

 

I know that the frame of the truck is limited. Im simply saying that within those boundaries and towards the top end of them it would be much easier to tow something such as a boat or camper.


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Diesel taco? HA..if we weren't america..there wouldn't be a tacoma to begin with..we would all have the same hilux..so a diesel taco will NEVER happen..

 

Compared to the gas V8 version? Yeah they still suck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53G8EvEfft4

 

Yeah, my boss would of bought a Tundra if it came in a 1ton variant.... wonder what is holding them from doing this?

I do, the stink, the old ones rumble more, loud, soot. However, I fail to see all these cost in maintaining the vehicle. I worked on diesels non stop while at Mercedes and it was mostly suspension and tire services. And yes if I was towing large objects I would go fullsize yet for lake boats and single small load flat beds a taco is just fine. And I really want to see the specs on the guys getting 20+ mpg's in a 4.0 6 lug....

 

Here you go, read up... You make it seem like 20 MPG in a stock V6 is unobtainable when, in fact, it's not that difficult.

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/6600-anyone-get-20-mpg-4-0l-v6.html

Keep in mind a lot of people here have modified their trucks with lift kits, body armor and off road tires. All of these will have an adverse affect on your fuel economy regardless of the engine.

 

My opinion on the D4D

I just spend 2 weeks in Cambodia, and drove around in a D4D Hilux (toured the entire country).
I did not rent it, my wifes uncle owns it, I think it was a 2010 or 11 double cab 4x4. I did get to drive it on and off road (mild trails in the jungle), the truck was awsome. It would be a tough decision if it ever made it here, I think I would lean toward the Hilux.

 

Exactly, and that is the case with all of my buddies that drive 6lug taco's out here. Keep in mind in the downhill scene taco's are the truck of choice so I talk to a lot of 4.0l taco owners. And thanks for the link I am going to check into this. Gone through six pages now, the 20+ milleage is all highway milleage not consistent tank averages. Im talking to the tank on a daily basis, not roadtrip under 65 miles an hour milleage. The highway speeds out here are 65 mph which means everyone is usually doing between 70 and 75.....

Freedom of speech whip, never said you couldn nor expect you not too.

 

I dont read your fucking mind and didn see a post saying you couldn.

 

Love all the dizzel haters. "Yeah but it'd be expensive - yeah but it'd suck - etc". Yeah - whatever. A fake hood scoop sucks, IMO. People still buy the shit out of em.

So what's wrong with some more engine choices? We get a 4 or a 6. Look at say, an F-150 - how many damn motors can you get? There's a couple 6's, probably several 8's and that's the gas side. Then you have the diesel options.

Or maybe Toyota can just drop the 6 and turbo the 4. That'd simplify things for the sales guys. And keep some of you happy.

 

Mine is 3.4 V6 and I get 18mpg with 33's and LT. When it was bone stock I was getting 22-23mpg

I hate diesels

 

There's no diesel option for the F-150... I believe there are 2 V6's and 2 V8's and not all engines are available for all models.

Personally, I like diesels, I just think there are enough draw backs to make it a viable engine choice for the Tacoma.

If Toyota dropped the V6 for a turbo charged 4 cylinder, I most likely would go elsewhere. I can't see a high output 4-banger lasting long for heavy hauling

End of the day, we can debate til we're blue in the face because there is no diesel option and won't be one for the foreseeable future.

 

I am of the mindset that there is some sort of conspiracy going on between the oil companies, auto manufactures and the American government. There has to be a reason Ford Dodge Chev or Toyota is not putting out a light duty diesel. I am sure they could sell a few 1/2 ton trucks that really got 25+ mpg. Not the bullshit window sticker EPA rating, but real world.

Why does the rest of the word get diesels in just about anything while we here in north America are stuck with gas except for a few exceptions.

I would dump this gas 4 cyl taco in am instant for a diesel 1/2 ton or smaller truck. Toyota's window sticker and their website says 30+ mpg when I bought this thing. Funny after 100+ fill ups tracked since new I am only getting 18.???? Mpg. 2 mpg better then my 04 dodge 3500 4x4 that by the way weighs around 10,000 lbs with tools. But sadly this taco only has about 1/4 of the power. So I am saving money with a gas taco, but I don't think gas is all that great.

 

actually.

i pounded the shit out of my dad's truck one night. and got 21.3 mpg. no shit. and it's a DCLB PreRunner. So pretty heavy. only 3 people including myself, but i wasn't too friendly with the gas pedal. at all.

hate to break it to you.

 

I really like how everyone bitches about how the Taco gets poor mileage, except in a thread about diesel

 

That's cute Kelson but lets reference the Uk diesel MPG. Uk diesel gets 38.7 combined mpg. Which should be imperial gallons. At 1.2 U.S. gallons per imperial gallon, that works out to 46.4 mpg combined driving. Over double your DCLB PreRunner K

 

What was the mpg?
Diesel here is $4/gal, gas is $3.7/gal. Everything I've read about Hilux claims mid 30s mpg. Having the option to pay 10% more for 50% + mileage increase would be nice.