DCLB: door sticker shock

I got a DCLB in August and it's a pleasure to drive. But I've got a plan to put a Go Fast Camper on the back and head out west and see all those national parks I didn't make it too in my younger days. One of the reasons I got the tacoma trd off road was it's stated payload of 1120 lbs. But today I (finally) looked at the door sticker and the max payload is... 950. WTF?

I get it. I didn't do my due diligence. I could have found out that number before purchase if I had. But damn. I don't want to drive an overloaded truck for many reasons, safety, insurance liability, etc. I'm curious. Does the payload change even with the same truck/options? Anyone else with a stock DCLB 2019 have a different number?

Mostly, this means no steel bumpers/skid plates for me. Time to learn to TIG weld.

 

I think all the DC are the same. I believe the AC are +500lbs IIRC.

 

Just went and looked at my DC Sport. It’s a 2020 with a 990 payload.

 

That seems really low. This is what I found for the 2019 DC.

 

I think you missed the point, he made the assumption he was good for 1100+lbs (probably found the same stats you did) but actual on the truck stats say something different.

That little "86" subnote basically says, these numbers aren't real, check your shit yourself to know what your payload is

 

just trying to help out...

 

@Area51Runner - thanks for the input

@calebc - Like many, I never clicked on "Excuse 86" until now.



I though I was getting 1120 and ended up with 950. The only dealer options were floormats, locking lugnuts and door trim guards. I can't see how they could be off by 170lbs. I'll check the owner's manual tonight. I'll also snap a picture of the door sticker.

 

Payload is something that was heavily discussed on another truck forum I belong to. Different brand but the result is the same, every option you get on a truck affects the payload. Commercials, websites and even literature only give a rough number, usually based on their most capable and stripped down model. The only way to truly know is to check the door sticker.

 

Yeah, you and me both. I never even thought to check until you posted this. I know everything about the truck impacts it, but again, it never even crossed my mind.

 

It looks like the stats online don’t account for a full tank of fuel while the one on the truck does.

 

@Texas T, I was thinking that this might be the case but according to the internet Gods, a gallon of unleaded is about 6 lbs. With the TRD Off road fuel tank of 21.1 gallons, that comes out to 126.6 lbs. About 40 short.

The 2019 owners manual lays it all out. Way back on page 628, you will find that the TRD Offroad DCLB has the Model code: GRN310L-PRTSHA and the "Vehicle capacity weight" is 950lbs. Damn. Toyota knows exactly what these vehicles weight within a pound or two. It seems very disingenuous to report a higher value on their website than the actual value. What's worse it that all the other auto websites repeat these values without every taking the time to check. OK, I'm grumbling a bit. This is on me. All I had to do is open the door and look at the sticker when it was still on the lot. I have to accept that.

That said, I went out to the toyota.com website and did a comparison between the 2020 trd DBLB and a Pro. Exactly what @Area51Runner did in a previous post, but this one is specific to the DCLB. The stated payload is 1105 lbs, as seen below.



I would love it if someone who has a 2020 TRD Offroad DCLB or a PRO posted a shot of their door sticker. I would love to see the real values.

I would be nice if we could shame Toyota into posting the values the know the truck can actually carry. Yes, a pipe dream but a nice thought.

 

Upgrade the suspension. So many keep their rigs overloaded. Some even crawl to the local mall that way.

 

That good ol' excuse 86 there has it right though. 1st Gen is the same (as well as any other vehicle I imagine).

Determine your curb weight and subtract it from your GVWR. That's going to give you your rough payload capacity. Thing is, curb weight is constantly changing based on what is in the vehicle. One of the other 1st Gen owners had looked at this since he was hauling concrete. He was way over but was able to manage (bump stops FTW). Toyota is going to play it conservatively but totally see how it can be frustrating to read one thing but it is in fact something else entirely.

 

This

 

I wouldn’t lose sleep over sub ~200lbs. At one point I had over 900lbs over the rear end of my truck and it drove just fine.

 

My 07 DCSB 4X4 is rated at 1200 lbs on the door sticker. I figured mine would be one of the lower rated versions due to 4X4, skid plates and the DC. I'm a bit surprised that some are under 1000 lbs.

But to be really accurate you need to actually weigh your truck and subtract that from GVWR. Once you start storing gear, tools, etc., in the truck along with any modifications you'll be surprised how much they weigh and how little payload you actually have. My cap is 180 lbs, I weigh 220 and my wife 140. That only leaves me about 650 lbs to work with.

Upgrading the suspension doesn't change anything, it just hides the problem. The GVWR is determined by the trucks braking ability and how much weight the axles can support as well as the suspension. You can change out the springs from a 1 ton truck, it doesn't mean you can haul more.

Virtually every truck ever made has gone over it's payload rating at times. By a couple of hundred pounds occasionally probably won't kill it. But going over by a lot, or even a little done consistently will. Ever wonder why some trucks go 600,000 miles and others are worn out at 60,000.

 

@Marshall R Yeah, I think I'm going to do that. I'll run the gas out until I've got about 10 miles left (sure hope the remaining mileage calculator is accurate), remove everything not bolted down and then have it weighed.

I will report back.

 

The gross weight of each is 5600lbs minus the curb weight gives you the payload capacity. If you add features, you add curb weight which reduces payload.

So in other words Toyota says the vehicle can carry 5600lbs. That includes itself.

 

Maybe not only fuel but all fluids?