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Dead Clutch? Won't return...

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by 39cents, Aug 5, 2009.

  1. Aug 5, 2009 at 4:09 PM
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    39cents

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    Pushed clutch in from being in neutral, clutch stayed completely depressed, could not go into any gears. Pulled clutch pedal back with hand and tried again, same result. transmission has never grinded gears and has always shifted smoothly,

    Poor ass college student, can't afford shop time...what can I do to assess and fix this on my own...will a Haynes manual be helpful?

    Thanks
     
  2. Aug 5, 2009 at 4:13 PM
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    chris4x4

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    First, check your fluid level. Should be a little container next to the brake master cyl.
     
  3. Aug 5, 2009 at 4:25 PM
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    Checked the oil level....it is about 3/4 inch below the min. line. Once I add the dot 3 brake fluid to the right level..is it just as simple as pumping the clutch pedal a few times or is there more to it?
     
  4. Aug 5, 2009 at 5:10 PM
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    That should be it. Unless something else is wrong.
     
  5. Aug 5, 2009 at 6:53 PM
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    its possible air could have gotten into the clutch master cylinder. if that's the case the system would need to be bled to get the bubble out. if that's not it i believe there is a fork in the transmission that actuates the pressure plate and engages/disengages the clutch. that could have broken or bent. from what i remember the fork is relatively easy and inexpensive to replace.
     
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    I was thinking the fork too, but its best to start with the easy stuff. :)
     
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    your clutch slave could just be bad.
     
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    the previous owner of my truck said he had a similar problem and it turned out to be the fork. i think you can see it moving from the outside of the transmission. a haynes manual would probably help you trouble shoot the problem.
     
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    it is either not enough fluid in the clutch system/reservoir or, more likely, you have a bad clutch master cylinder that needs to be replaced.

    check the cheaper stuff suggested though first.
     
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    thank you so much guys for the help!!
     
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    so I added the fluid..didn't work. I pumped the clutch, checked the oil level again. But when I was pushed the clutch only half way and let go it actually just kept sucking the clutch pedal all the way to the floor by itself. Is this a sign of anything obvious? oh and the brake fluid was a very dark brown so I'm sure it needs to be re bled regardless. next step, master cylinder or fork?
     
  13. Aug 6, 2009 at 4:47 AM
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    Is it leaking?
     
  14. Aug 6, 2009 at 5:56 AM
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    Sounds like the fork, or the pressure plate could be broken.
     
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    it sounds like there is no return pressure. which is mainly supplied by the fork and pressure plate. if it actually sucked it down then there is no air in the system. if it was a bubble the pedal would move in or out freely. i wouldnt rule out a bad cylinder but there are easier and cheaper things to check first
     
  16. Aug 7, 2009 at 10:32 AM
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    checked it for leaks, its bone dry from top to bottom...I'll start digging around see what I can find. How will you be able to tell if the fork or pressure plate is bad? do you have to take apart the transmission completely?
     
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    There is a boot on the fork. You should be able to remove it (atleast pull it out of the way. There is also a inspection cover (IIRC) that can be removed. The fork should be hard to move. If it is free-floating then either the fork is bent or the plate is shot. Either or designates a tranny drop.

    With that many miles, I hope it isn't the original clutch.
     
  18. Aug 7, 2009 at 10:45 AM
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    If it is bone dry you have a leak somewhere? There is no puddle on the ground?
     
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    Also look under the dash the master cylinder will leak down the fire wall into the cab and on to the carpet.
     
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