Dealership disarmed Pre-Collision System due modified grill/Pro grill

This is an old topic (search)...but.... my taco is lifted 6". I bought it like that brand new from the stealership. When this came out they asked you and me to sign a waiver to do the TSB. My answer, NO and you will do the TSB for the TSS. Answer from them, "ok but we are putting a sticker on your dash saying blah blah"
My answer NO you will document you did the TSB and I drive home or else I go see the GM to remind them they sold me the modified truck. The bottom line is stand your ground because it's a known fact that modifying the grill or changing the truck height hasn't caused near the problems other "issues" have.

 

I just checked my steering column and they didnt even put the yellow sticker on it lol. I didnt even get the proper disarmed PCS treatment

 

Why can't Toyota go to another system for TSS that eliminates the need for a sensor in the grill?

 

I see a 1st gen Ridgeline with raptor lights.

 

I knew someone that put ditch lights on their minivan after they hit a deer at night. That I could understand. lol

 

I have found that dealers in areas that have a big off-roading culture don't whine about mods as much. When I bring my truck in for service lifted or aftermarket grills seem to be very common.

 

My 2019 TRD Sport 4x4 DCLB (purchased 12/28/19 new) has a little over 17,000 miles on it. I have been wanting to swap out the grill and also install an under/behind the grill light bar. I have not been contacted about the fuel pump recall and have a couple more Toyota Care services left. Can’t decide if I should just bite the bullet and do my mods or wait until my Toyota Care runs out and fuel pump recall so I’m not spanked by the dealer.

 

Could this be a case of a dumb ass dealer misinterpreting the actual service?

My dealer asked me to sigh a waiver, the waiver was said that they would disable the sensor, but that I would need to enable it again or not.

I enabled it one time,, and have had zero issues.

Maybe your guys went out of the way because they did not understand.

BTW...zero chance I would have let them touch the truck if the document did not explicitly say that I could re-enable it.

 

Ok, I've read through all this thread and I'm wondering, lets say there's a different recall, like on a fuel pump or something and then they see oh, you never came in for the TSS recall. If you refuse to let them do anything for the TSS recall, can they refuse to handle the other recall?

 

I don't think they can, or would.

The issue with the TSS is kind of a unique situation.

1. The QNTY of Tacomas with replacement grills is crazy. If Toyota was not greedy, then a TRD Pro OEM grill would not have been difficult or expensive to get and this would be a non issue.

2. Toyota could have simply asked owners to return their trucks to OEM spec, in order to service the component (sensor). I am doing this for memory so I'm not sure if I remember 100% correctly, but my dealership explained that the problem was that the work done on my sensor would not be guaranteed because of my aftermarket grill, and my lift meant that they would need to disable the TSS, only to have me re-enable it, thus providing them proof that I engaged the sensor willingly.

Toyota were forced into this because of a rea and preventable issue with the sensor, and having an outstanding tech issue with so many modified trucks would have greatly affected their reliability score. Also, being a safety component, liability would be shared with the driver if a collision happened due to a component failure known to both the driver and manufacturer.

Think about it this way..... Your TSS sensor is not working, and you are okay with it, and the dealer is okay with it not working even though it should....... Now you rear end somebody who did not get a vote on the matter, and because the TSS sensor was not properly working, the person you injured through their attorney would argue that both you and Toyota are at fault.

Of course they are hoping for a large large monetary award, where even if Toyota is found to be only 50% culpable, they settle with you for your total insurance value, and get a check from them either for a settlement or Court mandated award.

 

I have a 2020 Tacoma and have not received a TSS recall because I don't think they had problems with those. I was just wondering if they could refuse to do the other warranty work. I wouldn't let them touch the TSS anyway, since it works just fine.

 

If I am remembering some previous posts, the dealer will recalibrate TSS is you have an OEM pro grill. But if the grill is aftermarket, they brick the sensor.

 

That's not what the "warning" says.

It seems rather clear to me - I will BOLD the good parts.

"It is recommended to disable the PCS and DRCC systems on vehicles that have been modified (ride height, oversized wheels/tires, brush bars, etc.) in a way that potentially disrupts the functionality of these systems. Vehicle owner's written consent is required before performing the calibration to permanently disable the PCS and DRCC systems. Follow the Repair Procedure in this bulletin to disable the PCS and DRCC systems."

 

That's sound logic, but dont forget anytime you rear end someone, it's the rear enders fault. Having these systems is great because they can help mitigate an accident in the first place, but at the end of the day, it's the driver not the machine.

 

Also keep in mind that the radar is used in the cruise control. If you set your cruise control and its not in the correct location and causes the adaptive cruise to speed up suddenly into the back of someone else, or it fails to detect a slowing car and instead plows right into the back of the car.

Or, it falsely detects a stopped car and puts the brakes on by itself causing you to crash.

 

The TSB as you quoted clears up all the back and forth, seems pretty straight forward. And makes sense from Toyotas perspective. Just needs to be at the top of the entire thread

 

My dealer didn't say anything about my Pro grill and sensor (Toyota garnish), with my homemade dampener, seal on back (you can't readily see the back). It's been working great over a year now.

 

Did you go in for the tss recall with it like that? because toyota isnt checking every car at every service for aftermarket parts so they can turn stuff off. If you went in for the recall with a aftermarket grill then you get it turned off. If you go in for a oil change, they have no reason to care whats on your truck

 

Point taken. Supposedly my 2019 Sport was not impacted by the TSS Recall.

 

This is exactly what I was thinking about doing. I have the fuel pump recall fix coming up.
I have an SR5 that I put larger tires on not long after I got it. Zero problems. I had the sensor recall fix put in with the foam pad, and I actually started having very rare phantom errors/ghost stops. Not frequent at all, but didn't really have that issue before the fix. Had a lift done recently, and no issues. I'm curious if this is going to be something that hit every truck that comes in with. By the wording in the TSB it states that if the owner hasn't signed the form not to move on to bricking the module. I would be highly pissed if they bricked mine, and I have no plans to sign the form.