1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Dealership oil change... advice?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Madcat207, Oct 19, 2012.

  1. Oct 19, 2012 at 8:35 AM
    #1
    Madcat207

    Madcat207 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2012
    Member:
    #80623
    Messages:
    170
    Gender:
    Male
    NM
    Vehicle:
    08 Double Cab Long Bed Sport
    So, having bought my 08 around 3 months ago, my oil change time has come. Now part of the deal was free SYNTHETIC oil changes for two years, problem is , I don't really trust dealerships. Hence, I am looking for advice :

    I know where to check the oil filter, but is there anything else I should inspect manuallly?

    They agreed to do the better synthetic, but I am not sure I trust them to put it in (vs the cheap stuff). Has anyone actually heard of going back with the vehicle and watching? I have thought of asking to do it, under the guise of learning more about my truck.. but I am not sure it would fly....
     
  2. Oct 19, 2012 at 8:46 AM
    #2
    The Phoenix

    The Phoenix Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2012
    Member:
    #89306
    Messages:
    22
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rocky
    Vehicle:
    Tonka
    I think your only option for figuring out what oil they put in it would be to do an oil analysis on it once its old. In fact, the dealership is surely purchasing oil in drums, which are probably not marked in any way that you'll be able to read. Truth is, however, that you shouldn't worry too much about it. If they put in recycled mineral oil, it will still satisfy your engine's lubrication requirements and won't lead to premature failure as long as the changes are done at reasonable intervals. Once you're through with the 2 years worth of changes and doing your own oil changes, then you can control what oil goes into it and can be as anal about it as makes you happy.
     
  3. Oct 19, 2012 at 8:50 AM
    #3
    seksilumpia

    seksilumpia Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2009
    Member:
    #24905
    Messages:
    593
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brandon
    El Dorado Hills
    Vehicle:
    05 TRD Sport DCSB
    Performance mods: TRD CAI, AFE throttle body spacer, Doug Thorley headers, TRD exhaust. Cosmetic mods: HID 10k head+3k fog lights, BHLM, T-rex 2 eyelids, billet grill (5 piece), 20% front window tint, 4% back window tint, tinted 3rd brake light, altezza tail lights, LED license plate lights, door skid protectors, slotted drilled rotors,plasti dip rims,painted rotor and drums. Interior mods: TRD seat covers, LED map and dome lights, 2 kicker 10' w/ 500 watt amp, pioneer door speakers,and Pioneer AVIC X930BT.
    Toyota wont let you go with the truck because they have strict insurance policies. Just take the 2 years free and then do it yourself! Very easy to do and even easier to work on.
     
  4. Oct 19, 2012 at 8:52 AM
    #4
    Madcat207

    Madcat207 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2012
    Member:
    #80623
    Messages:
    170
    Gender:
    Male
    NM
    Vehicle:
    08 Double Cab Long Bed Sport
    Fair enough...Any other qc checks I should do, and or is checking the filter good enough?

    Btw, and no objections to changing it myself, I but when it is free for two years, and hard not to take them up on it...
     
  5. Oct 19, 2012 at 11:18 AM
    #5
    ziggynagy

    ziggynagy All Glory To The Hypnotoad

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2011
    Member:
    #66601
    Messages:
    1,324
    Gender:
    Male
    Stoughton, MA
    Vehicle:
    '11 Sport AC 4x4 V6 Auto Tow
    Westin step bars, led dome & map lights, tailgate hoseclamp, BluLogic, MetalMiller emblem, 35 tinted front windows, extra OEM d-rings, WeatherTech front/rear
    When I get home after each dealer oil change I take a screwdriver and mark the top of my filter with the mileage (5k, 10k, 14k, etc) so knowing they changed my filter is pretty easy. If I were you, I'd mark your current oil filter. I also check the lugs on each tire just to make sure they are tight after reading a story on TW where a guy's tire nearly fell off.
     
  6. Oct 19, 2012 at 11:36 AM
    #6
    BamaToy1997

    BamaToy1997 ASE Master Tech Vendor

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2012
    Member:
    #71846
    Messages:
    9,460
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Bill
    Navarre, FL
    Vehicle:
    1997 Tacoma 4X4 AKA "Blue Beast"
    Multi-point tow hooks, new bored 2.7L engine, custom paint. 3 inch adjustable Fabtech front coils, 2.5 inch rear AAL. Front Aussie locker. LED bed lights. Full LED conversion interior and exterior. Relentless Fabrication front and rear bumpers. 4X4innovation sliders. BAMF bed rack. CVT rooftop tent.
    It is sad to hear about so many people who have had problems with dealerships. I spent 20 years in different shops and I always made sure me and my techs did quality work. I even made it a requirement that I QC test drive all repairs.
     
  7. Oct 19, 2012 at 11:58 AM
    #7
    DoorDing

    DoorDing Thank you, Nancy Roman

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2012
    Member:
    #86445
    Messages:
    24,990
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2012 DCSB Off-Road 4WD
    Mark the filter before going in. You can tell if it's new when you check the oil level after the service. After parking it awhile, check for any leaks from the filter and drain bolt. It can happen, even with new parts that were properly installed. I do these checks when I complete the work myself.

    If any tire work was done, check that all of the nuts and trim rings are installed, and if you have a torque wrench, give them all a check. If you don't have a torque wrench, you can still check them, just don't go crazy tightening them.

    Trust, but verify is definitely the way to go when someone else works on your vehicle. There's nothing wrong with being careful, and ultimately, it's your money and safety at risk. Don't be shy about it checking things out on the dealer's lot; I know I will.
     
  8. Oct 19, 2012 at 12:08 PM
    #8
    DriverSound

    DriverSound Señor Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2009
    Member:
    #15329
    Messages:
    2,484
    Gender:
    Male
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    15 TRD-OR DCSB
    Just enough! Other vehicles: 2015 Mustang GTPP 2014 Prius 2010 4runner SR5 4x4 2009 TRD-OR AC
    Mark the filter before coming in and check the oil level before you leave.
     
  9. Oct 19, 2012 at 12:17 PM
    #9
    Janster

    Janster Old & Forgetful

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2007
    Member:
    #1138
    Messages:
    13,750
    Gender:
    Female
    First Name:
    Jandy
    Lancaster, PA
    Vehicle:
    2007 4.0L 4x4 TRD Sport Access Cab A
    Advantage Torza top (tri-fold), Husky floor mats, RuffTuff seat covers, C2C hood struts, Homelink mirror, USA Spec PA15-Toy (120gig Classic & 8gig nano), Garmin Nuvi 660, Protecta Bed mat, Pop-n-lock, TSB Springs, Scangauge II, Heated drivers seat, Fumoto drain valve, Aries pushbar, PIAA 540 fog lights, Hood scoop grahics, Flowmaster 50 series dual catback exhaust, RainX Latitude windshield wipers, Husky rear floor liner (ontop of folded down seats). Console Vault.
    Take the freebies....

    Just like someone else said...mark the filter (to ensure they actually changed it). Check the color of your fluid before going in....and check the color of the fluid when you get it back home. It should be dark before and light after. Check the fluid levels and also check the drain plug to make sure its tight. Overall...check for leaks.
     
  10. Oct 19, 2012 at 12:29 PM
    #10
    XXXX

    XXXX Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2011
    Member:
    #62715
    Messages:
    21,087
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    sKiP
    Vehicle:
    05 Prius
    I write on mine for my own reference because I go over 5k in the summer and under 5k in the winter

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Oct 19, 2012 at 12:50 PM
    #11
    Madcat207

    Madcat207 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2012
    Member:
    #80623
    Messages:
    170
    Gender:
    Male
    NM
    Vehicle:
    08 Double Cab Long Bed Sport
    Great advice guys, thanks!

    The reason I distrust deal ships, and is that I had two tell me that my CEL was caused by my catalytic converter, and when actually the head gasket was going... I found out after my gasket went (and had to buy a new engine.....) ;) that there was a notice (but not recall) ;) talking about this problem that was valid when I had taken it in, and and Toyota would have picked up the repair. But since the mechanics didn't actually check anything, but the problem was allowed to get worse..
     
  12. Oct 19, 2012 at 1:00 PM
    #12
    DeeKay21

    DeeKay21 Lieutenant Dan.

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2008
    Member:
    #10651
    Messages:
    14,191
    Gender:
    Male
    Nevada/Utah
    Vehicle:
    06' TRD Sport 4x4
    I'd take advantage of the free oil changes and have them do it for the 2 years. Not saying it wouldnt happen but its pretty hard to screw up an oil change especially if its at a dealership....but again, not saying nothing wrong would happen.
     
  13. Oct 19, 2012 at 1:22 PM
    #13
    DriverSound

    DriverSound Señor Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2009
    Member:
    #15329
    Messages:
    2,484
    Gender:
    Male
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    15 TRD-OR DCSB
    Just enough! Other vehicles: 2015 Mustang GTPP 2014 Prius 2010 4runner SR5 4x4 2009 TRD-OR AC

    I had a warranty battery changed at a dealership two weeks ago and they screwed that up. They put the wrong battery tie down clamp which was much bigger not allowing me access to the over flow coolant bottle and their tech flat out lied and said that's how the car came in when I know it didn't since I had to jump start just to get it going. Thanks Community Honda of Whittier. :D
     
  14. Oct 19, 2012 at 1:25 PM
    #14
    Russellstiltskin

    Russellstiltskin Oldie but a Goodie

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2010
    Member:
    #42928
    Messages:
    859
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Russtifer
    Anchorage, AK
    Vehicle:
    '09 TRD Sport, DCSB
    Custom TRD Badged Grill, PowderCoated Black Steelies, with 285/75/16's. Studded Firestone Winter Force for Winter snow, Firestone Destination M/T for the summer mud, 2.75" Ready Lift Block kit in the front, and 2" AAL in the back, 5100 billies, TRD Cat-Back Exhaust, K&N CAI system under the hood, on a sesame seed bun.
    Its sad that we cant trust a dealership, with "certified" technicians who sell/maintain the same vehicles on a daily basis, to do a simple oil service correctly without either messing up or intentionally screwing us over. Sad, sad, sad.
     
  15. Oct 19, 2012 at 1:38 PM
    #15
    DriverSound

    DriverSound Señor Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2009
    Member:
    #15329
    Messages:
    2,484
    Gender:
    Male
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    15 TRD-OR DCSB
    Just enough! Other vehicles: 2015 Mustang GTPP 2014 Prius 2010 4runner SR5 4x4 2009 TRD-OR AC
    There was just an article on Yahoo about this Camaro owner placing a recorder in his car because he suspected the service department was screwing him and he recorded the so called techs doing three burnouts and saying something about messing up his clutch and that they're gonna make him pay big bucks, etc...

    So yes, it is a shame that we cannot trust a dealership and their trusted techs though it forces some of us to learn and do our own maintenance and repairs and pity to those who do get screwed over by shady dealerships and repair shops. So hard to find a good, honest mechanic...
     
  16. Oct 19, 2012 at 2:02 PM
    #16
    DoorDing

    DoorDing Thank you, Nancy Roman

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2012
    Member:
    #86445
    Messages:
    24,990
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2012 DCSB Off-Road 4WD
    To be fair, a lack of integrity is hardly unique to mechanics. I know that's not what you were implying, but being a truck enthusiast site, we tend to pile on to dealerships and mechanics. I'd say the majority of them just want to get paid for doing a good job, but there are a significant number of douchebags in the field.

    Look around most any workplace and you'll see examples of dishonesty and a complete lack of integrity or personal responsibility. Don't be one of those people, and you'll probably find life is a lot better.
     
  17. Oct 19, 2012 at 2:14 PM
    #17
    Brianz1001

    Brianz1001 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2012
    Member:
    #80563
    Messages:
    132
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brian
    In a House
    too much to type
    I worked in a few dealerships before opening my own garage, listen the bad work you are talking about is sometimes the mechanic, not the dealership. Alot of guys don't care, they get paid on piece work not flat rate. Not making excuses for any dealership, but if they screw up get them to fix it and don't go back.

    If you do it's your own fault next time. You never know who is going to work on your truck. your better off if you can't do it yourself, find a good local garage and make a relationship with them, so you know what your getting.
    Just my 2cents...
     
  18. Oct 19, 2012 at 2:59 PM
    #18
    1stacoma

    1stacoma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2012
    Member:
    #80656
    Messages:
    520
    Gender:
    Male
    Austin
    Vehicle:
    2012 MGM SR5 DCSB 4.0
    5100's front and rear, front 2.5" rear 2" AAL, 18% tint front and rear, color matched grill. SCS wheels 275/70/17 BFG AT KO's. DTRL toggle switch.
    I got the 2 year free oil changes with the purchase of my truck. Reasons I chose to do the OC's my self:

    1. I did it correctly
    2. Used the oil I wanted to use
    3. Dont have to sit and wait
    4. Don't have to worry about truck being damaged
    Drum roll.......
    5. The oil change was actually done
     
  19. Oct 19, 2012 at 3:18 PM
    #19
    Madcat207

    Madcat207 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2012
    Member:
    #80623
    Messages:
    170
    Gender:
    Male
    NM
    Vehicle:
    08 Double Cab Long Bed Sport
    So, I am here at the dealership, just waiting for the truck to get washed.

    The nice thing is, the service bays have a viewing area, so I was able to watch everything they did to my truck (pretty much) . Here are my on the fly notes of the step by step of what I saw...
    Truck pulled into bay
    Hood raised
    Truck lifted
    Tires were inspected and air checked /refilled
    Oil drained
    Undercarriage inspection
    Grease gun applied grease to locations under truck (near axles) front and back
    Tire lugs removed
    Tires removed and rotated (sides stayed the same, but front and back moved)
    tire lugs placed by hand
    Tire lugs airgun tightened
    Truck lowered
    tire lugs tighter by manual wrench
    Tech went to the back, got what looks like an oil filter box
    Tech spotted holding large jug, grey looks like mobile 1
    Hood closed.

    The ONLY THING I could not see was the actual oils going in, due to a 4 runner being in the bay next to mine.

    Now, I took advice, and marked my old filter, and meeting note of the color of my old oil, so will be able to know if new oils went in.. ill update in a few..
     
  20. Oct 19, 2012 at 4:00 PM
    #20
    DriverSound

    DriverSound Señor Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2009
    Member:
    #15329
    Messages:
    2,484
    Gender:
    Male
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    15 TRD-OR DCSB
    Just enough! Other vehicles: 2015 Mustang GTPP 2014 Prius 2010 4runner SR5 4x4 2009 TRD-OR AC

    True, there's good mechanics out there and like I said, they are hard to find.
     
To Top