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Dealerships that sold at MSRP

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by JGDlife, Jul 29, 2022.

  1. Sep 12, 2022 at 12:03 PM
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    EarlHickey

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    June of 22. 2022 Off Road Access Cab 4x4. MSRP, $299 fee, tax, title, license. Mark Miller Toyota SLC UT. Zero BS. Local dealer in St George UT treated me and my wife like a couple of bums. I’ll drive to do business with Mark Miller again. Won’t even have to think about it.
     
  2. Sep 12, 2022 at 12:05 PM
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    The Stephen Wade franchise in STG is the worstttttt. We always tell friends not to deal with them. My boss also has had awful experiences there. Every franchise is typically 5k+ markup.
     
  3. Sep 12, 2022 at 12:09 PM
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    They were at $3K markup. After the step bars and such that most of their trucks have tacked on. And they wanted it up front, as a non refundable deposit. No ETA. Didn’t want to let us test drive or even sit in them. I didn’t dress up in my suit to impress them, but who does?
     
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  4. Sep 12, 2022 at 12:10 PM
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    Can confirm. While I'm a first gen Taco guy, I bought a brand new AWD prius from Mark Miller back in February. Their direct quote was 'We think demand markups arent right. Thats not how we do business. We'll never do it for any of our vehicles." Gotta love Mark Miller Toyota.
     
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  5. Sep 12, 2022 at 12:20 PM
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    A coworker wanted a Sienna and ended up going to Vegas because Stephen Wade Toyota did the same thing, “give us non refundable deposit and no ETA”. This market makes it tough to buy new. I’m glad I’m happy with my Sequoia. Surprisingly got it at Stephen Wade but they played annoying games with trade. They saw it on KSL and said they’d get close in price if I came in. Came in 6k under asking. We ended up settling at 3 or 4K under my asking price because I refused to take the Jeep back home. They ended up listing my Jeep at something ridiculous like 59k. It sat for a long while, I think at last glance was 52k. I’d hate to be playing games at dealerships. Luckily our last few purchases have been private party. I’m good with no more NEW vehicles until things normalize, if they ever do.
     
  6. Sep 12, 2022 at 12:48 PM
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    I put deposits down with 4 Toyota dealerships (1 in NC where I live, 1 in VT, and 2 in MA) on a 2022 TRD Sport, 4 Door, 4 WD, 6’ bed. Although it took 3 1/2 months for one of the dealerships to be allocated the truck (and even my first choice of color), fortunately it was Hendrick Toyota in Concord, NC and they sold me the vehicle in August of 2022 at MSRP. The salesman, Andrew Macias was excellent and I recommend him because he was very professional and attentive by constantly updating me on the status of the truck. I learned that the majority of the dealerships I contacted were offering vehicles considerably over MSRP, as much as $7,000, that is why I had to go out of state at the time.
     
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  7. Sep 12, 2022 at 1:35 PM
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    August of 22, Koons Toyota in Alexandria VA. 22 SR Access cab 4x4 6cyl. MSRP plus $500 fee, tax title and tags. Everyone was honest and pleasant. The vehicle was on the lot and I drove 300 miles to buy it. They also gave me a really good trade on my old truck.
     
  8. Sep 12, 2022 at 1:48 PM
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    Probably about $4-5k diff depending on options. The higher the MSRP, the more difference there will be. So a $70,000 truck may have $5-6k.
     
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  9. Sep 12, 2022 at 1:50 PM
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    And what do you do for a living? Sounds like your experiences with car dealerships was not good. Maybe you haven't dealt with the right ones. It's sad that a few bad ones give the whole industry a bad name...like every other profession. Again, what do you do??
     
  10. Sep 12, 2022 at 5:19 PM
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    Just got home with a 2022 SR5 double cab long box from Mills Toyota, Willmar MN. $500 under MSRP. came with Zurich shield and limited lifetime powertrain warranty. Don't know how good Zurich is, but no upcharge. 6.5 hour drive to get truck 1 way. Whereas russ darrow Toyota 15 minutes from me, has a double cab long box SR5, with a $3000 wax job on it and $3000 dealer markup.
     
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    Tacolab....Sounds like a very good deal. Nothing like that here in the Southeast.
     
  12. Sep 13, 2022 at 7:09 AM
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    I have always been lucky when buying new vehicles. I too have driven 3 to 4 hours to save thousands on both Ford and Toyota trucks. Now I am trying to help my daughter find/order/buy a new 2022 RAV4. She lives in NC. The RAV4 is now the unicorn. Dealers seem to be gaining stocks of the Tacoma but not the RAV4. Something that has changed is the dealer "documentation" bs fee. The last time I searched in NC I found some dealers charging $200 and some charging $700. Now it seems every dealer is charging that $700 fee. The old holdback fee is no longer a negotiable tool. Invoice is a dead subject. I am simply trying to find her a nice new RAV4 at MSRP. She is at Camp Lejeune and there is only 1 local Toyota dealer. Has anyone had experience with Stevenson-Hendrick Toyota.
     
  13. Sep 15, 2022 at 11:03 AM
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    Definitely not MSRP unless you don't consider mandatory Nitrogen for $1200 a markup. lol
     
  14. Sep 15, 2022 at 11:06 AM
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    Just called Nash and Robbins and was told they had a required $2000 protection package. It seems impossible to buy a toyota truck at MSRP in Texas ATM.
     
  15. Sep 15, 2022 at 11:13 AM
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    "Definitely not MSRP unless you don't consider mandatory Nitrogen for $1200 a markup. lol"

    How about BYOC. Bring your own compressor, let all the air out, then pump up with your own air and charge the dealer $600 for fresh air. You can buy a full tank with 125 cubic feet of nitrogen for $375 from Amazon delivered.
     
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  16. Sep 15, 2022 at 12:26 PM
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    9/14/22 Roswell Toyota in Roswell, NM. MSRP with no bs upsale charges or dealer fees. Easiest buying experience I’ve had.
     
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    Precision Toyota in Tucson sold at MSRP in February, with about $400 in dealer accessories (tinted windows and door sill protectors, I think). I think the other dealer in town was also selling for MSRP, but not sure about the add-ons.
     
  18. Sep 15, 2022 at 1:44 PM
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    All dealers in VA and NC charge $700 or more in "processing fees" now. Such a bs ripoff fee. That is why my last 3 new ones came from 300-400 miles away. Never paid MSRP for a new Ford or a Toyota. Unfortunately my daughter doesn't have the luxury of time to travel like me and, because of the market, there are no new RAV4's to buy. My area is so bad I don't bother looking at their inventory. The last time I was looking for a new Toyota local dealers would not even search allotments. They have this attitude of "this is what we have and this is what you will pay". Now they are all "haggle free pricing" which is either msrp or their market adjusted price. Period. They have all gone to the free bs bs bs for life. That is another dealer scam. Free engines for life. The fine print says you must allow them to do every service they recommend when they recommend it or it voids the engine for life warranty. You still have to pay for these recommended services. I have a friend that drank the koolaid. His Chevy truck was losing oil. They claimed the problem wasn't covered because he didn't have every receipt for oil changes that were done on schedule. Paid that dealer big $$$ out of his pocket for valve seal replacements. Next thing you know it was losing oil again. The dealer covered the cost of replacing rings in the engine that fixed it and most likely was the original problem. They refused to reimburse him for the valve seal job. He went through arbitration, another fine print detail, and was ultimately denied reimbursement. So much for engines for life. Buy your new vehicle at the best price. Do not fall for dealer perks. Your new vehicle warranty is good at any dealership. My last 3 I rented a one-way car and drove my new one home laughing all the way at the money I saved. Then I go to the local "what we have and what you will pay" dealer for free warranty repairs and ToyotaCare service.
     
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    This. I did everything over email, got the exact truck I wanted at MSRP with zero add ons, arranged the financing ahead of time, flew up from Phoenix, and drove it home. Best car buying experience of my life. Ask for Kyle R if you’re looking. He’s been there for years and I’ve purchased two vehicles with him.
     
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    price gouging or discrimination? or they can get away with it being different products/options.
     

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