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Death Valley Off-Road Adventures

Discussion in 'Off-Roading & Trails' started by Crom, Nov 14, 2009.

  1. May 15, 2019 at 3:43 AM
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  2. May 15, 2019 at 12:04 PM
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  3. May 17, 2019 at 8:53 AM
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    Recent rains have provided DV some lakes...

     
  4. May 17, 2019 at 11:40 AM
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    I was there on May 2nd and it was sprinkling for a couple of days before I left, nothing major like this.
     
  5. May 17, 2019 at 3:00 PM
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    Does anyone know if death valley is salty?
     
  6. May 17, 2019 at 3:20 PM
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    If you mean are the ephemeral lakes that sometimes show up on the valley floor after a wet period (like in the video a few posts up) really salty then the answer is yes! The playas (dry lake beds) that they form on are already very saline and typically the water that collects in them have passed through lots of saline deposits before even reaching the valley floor. As the water evaporates it becomes more and more saline. When all the water evaporates the salts are left behind and so the valley floor is a mixture of salt and mud.

    Gain just a little bit of elevation onto the surrounding alluvial fans and the soil really isn't particularly saline at all. Also most of the springs through out the area are not particularly salty. But the water that collects on the valley floor is very salty.
     
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  7. May 17, 2019 at 3:58 PM
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    yes, very salty.
     
  8. May 20, 2019 at 1:45 PM
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    Incredible! Thanks!

    As you know now, the dry lake bottoms are salty.

    Some places like the Devils Golf Course, the salt crystals (foreground pic below), are hard as glass. The salt crystals can be a few CM long, can be quite sharp and can mess you up if you're not careful.

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    Other parts like Badwater the landscape is more mild and while salt crystals still very durable, don't seem to grow as long.

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  9. May 21, 2019 at 5:39 AM
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    Are there any nice trails or open expanse areas for dirt biking/OHV with no salt?
     
  10. May 21, 2019 at 6:01 AM
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    No. OHV is not permitted in the park. For that I'd go to a different place.

    East of San Diego, Ocotillo Wells State Vehicular Recreation Area. Something like that.
     
  11. May 21, 2019 at 8:52 AM
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    Are non-street-legal dirt bikes or OHV’s allowed in ANY national park? When I was in Canyonlands last month, I was surprised to see lots of side-by-sides on the streets and highways (and of course trails) outside the Park, but it was very clear that they were not allowed in the Park on either dirt or pavement. In fact, even pedal-assist eBikes aren’t allowed in the Park ... you can ride a normal bicycle, or a street legal and licensed motorcycle, but not an eBike.
     
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    Not that I know of. Inyo County is currently working hard to promote public lands for OHV use and have some sort of established trail program in place. Problem is that Saline Valley Road is going to be included in their network and it is going to be hard for the park service to ensure OHV use doesn't stray into park lands from SVR. I hope they have a way to educate riders/drivers about park boundaries and where not to go. Without specifically looking at SVR I'd say the majority of it is surrounded by DVNP lands.
     
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  13. May 21, 2019 at 1:21 PM
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    @Crom Good to see the (colorful) girls out in the 'drab' desert.
     
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    Thanks. Pictures were from Nov. 2016. Desperately trying to get the family back there. I think this fall it will happen. :pray:
     
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    We entered Canyonlands along the White Rim Trail from BLM land where OHV’s are allowed and the sign at the entrance was pretty clear, though it was 20? miles of dirt from the nearest paved road or ranger station. We saw lots of 4wd’s and dual sport motorcycles on the White Rim over 4 days but no OHV ‘s, so compliance seems pretty good. Though we did see two NPS ranger vehicles ... a Grand Cherokee and an F150, I think. The grass is always greener somewhere else, but as a lifelong Californian I do feel that compliance with these kinds of regulations is worse here than in other parts of the mountain West.
     
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    :bikewhoops: Good to see you back Nick. It's tough getting the family out there or anywhere as the kids get older. Although we did get in a trip through Sedona, AZ and Grand Canyon on spring break. I'm sure your girls are a lot bigger now. Mine are about to become teenagers. :eek:. I'm hoping for a trip back to DV next spring.
     
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    What's the condition of White Mountain Talc Road from SVR to Cerro Gordo/salt tram?
     
  18. May 26, 2019 at 9:47 AM
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    Always best to check the Death Valley NPS web site.
     
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    Yes good read...found that a while ago
    Can’t believe they didn’t go back to the cabin...
     
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