Deaver aal vs hs proggressive aal

Can someone tell me the pros and cons of the HeadStrong Off-Road proggressive aal. I was set to order my lift with the deaver single aal but realized the hs proggressive aal is back in stock and wanted some info on it.

 

Easiest way to find out is give Marie a call over at @HeadStrong Off-Road and she will give you some in site on what your looking for since she will know all about them!

 

This is from an email Marie sent me a few months back.

 

I'm in the same boat with trying to select the correct leaf system.
Does anyone have any first hand experience with either leaf option?
I already have a set of Sumosprings, so I'm kinda leaning towards the 3 leaf pack.
I don't have a cap, tow an 18' al boat in the summer and cut some firewood in the winter.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thank you. I figured the proggressive would probably ride a bit better. I have also heard that the little bit of extra weight carrying capacity you get out of a single aal doesn't necessarily apply to a 3 leaf design. Not sure how true this is, I also understand that ppl buying the progressive aal probably aren't doing so to increase hauling capacity, I'm just looking for all the information I can get to make the right purchase.

 

All of the 3 leaf progressive AALs on the market are manufactured by Deaver to the same specs.

So, get which one fits your budget or your ego (like Icon).

The 3 leaf packs are not as strong as a single AAL, so if you're towing or hauling heavy/regularly you'll be better off with a single AAL, though your unloaded ride will be slightly stiffer.

Lastly, if you install a 3 leaf AAL without your factory overload leaf, you'll have a 10% loss of payload capacity.

 

whats the difference in ride quality going with the 10 leaf spring set vs the 3 leaf AAL?



EDIT: deaver lists the J66 for both the 2nd and 3rd gen taco's. it is listed as 1-1.5 inch lift for the 2nd gens. Would it only be a .5 inch lift in the 3rd gen?

 

Our 3-leaf add-a-leafs and Icon's are manufactured to different specifications and they are not manufactured by the same company either. I am not sure what other manufacturers' 3-leafs look like in comparison but since we sell ours and Icons we are familiar with both, their similarities and their differences.

If you would like to go over some of the differences of ours and theirs or the single leaf vs. the 3-leaf you can either pm me or give me a call and I can help you out.

 

No problem. For what's it's worth, I'm running the progressive AAL with no overload and it holds up alright. Haven't tested the limits so I'm not much help there. Also thinking of switching to Dakars as my needs/wants have changed.

 

Well that's good to know, thanks for the correction.

I guess that's only true for the Wheeler's Offroad 3 leaf and the Icon 3 leaf, as it was explained and confirmed by Dan a couple years back.

 

From what I understand, and I could be wrong, they buys their packs from Icon but they assemble them there. So if that is true then they are one in the same.

 

Correct me if I'm way off base here, but I thought that was only for the front. For instance adding 5100s for a 2nd gen on a 3rd gen causes the 1" difference issues.

If I'm not mistaken the leaf packs work differently than the coil springs in terms of lift gained. So, you would still see that much.

Again though I'd like to have someone confirm this, correct me if I am wrong!
Honestly, if that is the case I'd be thrilled, as I've been looking for something to bring my ass end up half an inch to get some of my factory rake back and keep bro lean down when I load up the back with dirtbikes.

 

I'm not sure and now your making me question myself.... But the truck still has a rake from the factory, so it wouldn't work for the front to be lifted an inch and the back to still be the same as a second gen?

I'm picking up my dclb or tomorrow, already have 17s with 265/70s for it... I don't really want a big lift, only like half to an inch but am more interested in getting a better ride quality. Someone else suggested the deaver leaf packs so I was curious

 

Ride quality was my only requirement. I chose the Icon aal pack. I'm happy until the factory leaves give up on me. Then I wI'll consider Allpro standards, or something else flexy.

 

The height difference from 2nd gen to 3rd gen is really only a front end thing. Typically the rake (depending on model year and if they have the recall pack or not) on the 2nd gens is greater then that of the 3rd gens due to Toyota putting a different coil spring up front.

So if you use the Deaver single leaf add-a-leaf it will provide approx. 1.5"-2" of lift over stock. The 3-leaf will provide around 1.5" of lift with the factory overload removed and around 2" with it retained. The OME Dakar will provide around 2.75"-3" of lift over stock fully in tact but you can alter this pack to gain more or less lift, and from what I have seen the J66 will provide around 1" of lift.

If you need help with your specific truck and what the after lift measurements may be let me know and I can go through it case-by-case since each truck can have some variation.

 

Can’t compare. Just installed Deaver single and can say:
1. Easy install.
2. Exactly 1 5/8” lift.
3. Rides the same as stock.

 

How’s it working out so far? Considering the same but concerned my camper may load it down. Wanting to still have some spring for when I need to load up the back with materials.

this is it rn with factory leafs.

 

Add airbags and you can adjust as needed depending on load in the bed.

 

I’m setting up to tow a 1,900# teardrop trailer, with two people and camping gear in the cab and bed.

The Deaver AAL has been great. Again, can’t really tell any difference in ride quality, and the install kept everything essentially stock. For additional support when towing/loaded, I also added 500# Sumo Springs, which don’t even engage unless loaded/needed.

After tons of research here, I think I found my sweet spot.

 

Awesome thank you for the feedback!

did you just need longer u bolts for the additional leaf?