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decided on ICON but still have some ?'s

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by MileHighTaco, Jan 25, 2011.

  1. Jan 25, 2011 at 11:15 AM
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    MileHighTaco

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    This will be the first truck I've lifted, so excuse the possibly dumb questions. I've done a ton of research, but still am not sure of what I want/need. Here's what I've decided on:

    Front: ICON C/O and TC UCAs, but I can't decide if I should get the extended travel and/or the reservoirs or not. I will be mostly crawling up trails and some rocks. Suggestions?

    Rear: ICON resi shocks. The questions I have here are about lift. I want 3" all the way around, so I was thinking of getting the all pro standard duty leaf springs instead of the ICON aal. Is that the way to go, or is there something better?

    Is there anything else I am going to need such as a u-bolt flip kit, extended brake lines, etc...

    Also, where can I get the best deal? Right now I'm looking at buying from off road warehouse, the "desert sale." http://www.offroadwarehouse.com/products/sfID1/4/sfID2/78/sfID3/83/productID/39121 This seems good, but there is no warranty information. Obviously, I don't want to spend all this money and have no where to turn if something is wrong with the parts.

    Wheels/Tires: FJ Trail Team 16x7.5, 4.5" backspacing, Goodyear Duratrac 285/75-16. ICON recommends 16x8 wheels with 5" backspacing. Will the FJ wheels be ok? And will I need to trim anything to make the tires fit?

    Thanks for the help!
     
  2. Jan 25, 2011 at 11:40 AM
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    especk

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    Get the extended travel for sure. Resevoirs are not needed for what you are doing. Get the all-pro leafs, flip kit if you want, and extended brakelines would be a good idea. The wheels will work just fine. Everything else sounds great!
     
  3. Jan 25, 2011 at 11:54 AM
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    YotaDan

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    We have a package deal with the Icon Extended Travel and Total Chaos UCAs. You get free shipping on the package. As far as rear lifts, Usually a 1.5-2" lift in the rear will make the truck sit level with 3" of lift in the front. If you do 3" of lift in the rear the truck will have a factory rake look. You will want to get longer rear shocks and extended rear brake lines as well, to go with the rear lift.
    http://www.wheelersoffroad.com/05uptacoma.htm
     
  4. Jan 25, 2011 at 7:57 PM
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    Definitely get the extended travel. With uniball UCA's thats probably the best mid travel set up and has the most wheel travel without going LT. 1.5" aal in the rear will be perfect. I believe the Icon's come pre-set at 2.5" which is the sweet spot on those so anything more in the rear will be too much. Factor rake is already 1.5". Wheelers 3 leaf aal is nice and basically the same as what Icon recommends.

    Nice Choice and post pic's!
     
  5. Jan 28, 2011 at 7:21 PM
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    I now that you get a lot of snow in winter, there . If they are using any salt on the road ??? then I would strongly reconsider the front option.
    In a year and half, I been thru two sets of seals on my Icons. They are leaking badly again. I call them and ask - whats wrong with this???
    They told me that the winter could be harsh on the seals. Now,, some of my friends are running EMU for more then five years and still like new.
    Try to call them -Icon's- and see what they are saying. Don't get tricked by the shiny look. For $1600 (purchase and rebuild),, I could have bought two sets of EMU. This is my experience with. Wish you a better one.

    Good luck.
     
  6. Jan 28, 2011 at 9:05 PM
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    Icon Coilovers, Downsouth UCAs, rear Icon "2.5" shocks and Toytec single AAL. Still gotta do exhaust, dark headlights and re-gear the rear diff.
    I've read about the leaking issue before. So why is it that icons are labeled as such great shocks along with the other popular "greats"?
     
  7. Jan 28, 2011 at 9:10 PM
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    Its just Virgilus. I would say he has a bad set. He's the only instance I've ever seen reported. That stuff you read about before? That was him too:

    http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/suspension/118639-icons-leak.html

    Icons are labeled as great coilovers because they are.
     
  8. Jan 28, 2011 at 9:15 PM
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    Icon Ext travel CO, Icon tubular uniball UCAs, Maxtrac Spindles, Icon RR rear w 2"aal.
    x2 wouldnt hesitate buying them again.
     
  9. Jan 28, 2011 at 9:17 PM
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    They are great shocks. As long you don't expose the seals to any salt. If you look at EMU,, or Bilstein you will see that the seals are incased (protected) from stones, salt, etc.
    You just have to decide where you are going to use them. They may look nice and shiny in California but up north they don't last more then a winter then you have to remove them, go with out the truck for few days and install new seals. This ,, I just found it the hard way. $$$$$. Now I am looking to buy a EMU set.

    Both guys are right. I never heard of anyone else having this problem or the guys don't want to talk about it. It could be that I have bad luck.
     
  10. Jan 28, 2011 at 9:19 PM
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    Uh, I have no doubt there are MANY people up north running Icon suspension components without seasonal removal.

    I seriously think it's either your set of shocks or something you do with your truck that doesn't apply to the rest of us.
     
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