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Delayed ABS braking disengagement?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Tacos4fun, Nov 23, 2016.

  1. Nov 23, 2016 at 4:39 PM
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    Tacos4fun

    Tacos4fun [OP] Member

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    Hey Guys, quick question. Has anyone experienced a ‘delayed’ disengagement of your ABS braking?

    Today I got cutoff which required me to brake hard engaging the ABS. When I released the brake there was (roughly) a 1+ second delay in the ABS disengaging.

    While this may not sound like an issue, it could have been. I knew the car behind me was close and saw him slam on his brakes. The car that cut me off, quickly accelerated realizing they cut me off. My response of getting off the brakes would allow more time/distance for the guy behind me to slow avoiding a possible rear end collision.

    Thankfully even with my ABS delay release, the guy behind me was able to avoid hitting me.

    Thanks for any thoughts/insight you may have on this.
     
  2. Nov 23, 2016 at 5:25 PM
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    Nitori

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    Sounds to me like brake assist, not your ABS.

    Brake assist is a feature on all modern cars that's designed so that people who "jab" the brake pedal hard like a panic stop get MASSIVELY increased brake booster power. It's supposed to be for little old ladies who can't apply much pedal force or inexperienced drivers who don't know what to do.

    And yes, it's quite annoying, especially if you are doing something like autocrossing. This was in a Volkswagen GTI not a Tacoma, for the record.:rofl:

    EDIT: Have a fun and informative video
     
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  3. Nov 24, 2016 at 5:59 AM
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    Nitroi - Thanks! I'll look into 'brake assist' further. The moment I hear that a mechanical system (such as braking) has been 'enhanced' by software/computer functions, I'm suspicious of potential unintended or accepted consequences. While I agree with the benefits these enhancements can provide to the masses, I believe virtually all of them should have a disable feature, which typically doesn't exist.

    This is my wife's truck which she loves. While I agree with her that the overall quality has improved greatly from that of vehicles of decades ago, I still prefer solely mechanical systems for critical feedback and control systems (steering, breaking, throttle, shifting, etc). With a very limited competition background myself, I prefer old school systems :).

    Thanks again for your assistance
     
  4. Nov 24, 2016 at 10:33 AM
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    su.b.rat

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    i see it's your wife's vehicle. even so, i would take that thing out to a parking lot in different conditions to test this out and learn how the thing responds to various inputs. that's the only way to have full confidence in hand when emergency moments come up. plus, that little project will be tons 'o fun. and you'll learn pretty quick if this is brake assist and how it does its thing.
     
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  5. Nov 24, 2016 at 3:55 PM
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    Excellent advice, as handling is certainly a needed design compromise with any pickup :). I figured once I get a bit snow that will be a good time to really find out (in an empty parking lot), not only actual design handling, but how much the various electronic control systems alter the physical handling characteristics.
     
  6. Nov 25, 2016 at 1:50 PM
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    over60

    over60 Over70 & still a "Grumpy Old Guy"

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    Toyota running boards/Solid Fold 2.0/custom stickers/Anti-Dark LED light under hood/Derped grill/Scoop, etc.
    Funny, I'm planning on doing just what you said, as the wife's Corolla went into the garage for the winter...... She will have to drive MY Taco during the winter. So, a little training and get tp know each other is clearly a MUST..!! I've already started by demonstrating the difference from my 2006 Taco.... That thing would spin the tires and put her in the ditch in summer on dry pavement if she pushed it...

    This truck; however, has "wife control" built in, and I like that...!! Just have to show her how if handles now....it's not like the 2006.
     
  7. Nov 25, 2016 at 1:54 PM
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    brich999

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    all tore up already
    +1 on electronic brakeforce distribution being the culprit. notice the pedal move away from your foot at the first stab? that scared me bad before i knew what was going on
     

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