Did dealer broke my crankshaft ?

Why would you call the cops? It's a business dispute (civil matter) not a criminal matter.

 

The loads aren't that high, but that's not something I'd want to skimp on.

I guess you've got nothing to loose at that point but it would suck to get stranded in the middle of nowhere.

 

I had a problem with my crankshaft bolt being lose and they had to replace the pulley, key, and crankshaft seal. Did not require the engine to be disassembled. If the keyway or slot is damaged then you will need a new crankshaft not a whole new engine.

 

Cheaper to swap a used engine in than to pay for the labor of completely disassembling the engine.

 

Did the dealer "break" your camshaft? I don't know, that's beyond my technical ability. For less than the cost of a truck, I know a guy who can visit the dealer after hours. He'll have a 5 gallon can of gas and a few road flares. Two problems solved, just make sure your insurance is up to date.

 

]I just got back from taking pictures. Thank you all for all the info. I been doing some googling and im pretty sure now that the crankshaft key (also called woodruff key) is replaceable. Thanks for the links and info.
Do you think the seal is properly put in place? How difficult would it be to replace it?
My only concern now is if it will hold in place. Cause as you can see in the pics. The hole where the key sits is a little messed up. Please take a look and tell me what you think.
I hope this works and the dumbass mechanics at the dealer dont try to give me a hard time. Thank you all.

 

The damage looks like was already done before the tech started on it. I have seen this a few times myself and you know when you start pulling it apart it doesn't feel right. Yes it ran when it came in. Mine did too. I have fixed one worse than this. It's mechanical. Things break. So quick to judge some of you.
Lets see how this unfolds.....

 

That does'nt look too bad, I've seen worse. Seal definitely should be replaced. I would just replace the seal & key. Better than buying a new crankshaft or used engine. You've got nothing to lose.

 

Ouch, that's a decent chip. The dealer definitely won't put that back together because of liability issues. You might be stuck getting it towed home or to a sketchy shop that's willing to put it back together.

Then you get to have this in the back of your mind every time you're driving in the middle of nowhere.

 

Yeah, it looks like the crankshaft pulley (harmonic balancer) got most of the brunt. I wonder what the keyway on that looks like. Timing gear looks "okay". Looks like whoever changed the seal did'nt torque it back to specs or install the seal deep enough, either.

 

I see your in VA Beach...what dealer?

Good luck...

 

It looks like there is rust down in that chip so I am assuming it has been there for a while and not done by the dealer. If the chip was shiny then I would say the dealer did it

 

No, the dealer did'nt do it. It looks like it's been like that for quite some time. They just did'nt want to reassemble it & have something go wrong. They might do it if he signs some kind of waiver, though.

 

I've seen GM engines at 800HP still using a woodruff.

I have priced this out before on the 3.4 engine. Overall the total cost of replacing the crankshaft and related parts would be more expensive. I know it doesn't seem like it, but it is.

I wouldn't even joke about that.




OP, I will be 100% straight with you. From this photo above the keyway is damaged, and there is a lot of rust and galling on the end of the crankshaft. Also, looking up at the engine front I see a lot of rust and signs of issues for the front crankshaft seal. Just from this photo alone, and knowing what I do about this engine, if your truck was in my shop I would recommend replacing the crankshaft and related parts, or the entire engine. Most likely a total replacement would be more cost effective, if you include the fact that a new engine through Toyota would have a much better warranty. Usually an engine repair will only have a 12 month, 12k mile warranty. A new engine will usually have a 3 year, 36k mile warranty. Not to mention that a repair warranty only covers the parts repaired. In this case a crankshaft, and related parts. A total replacement engine will of course have the total engine covered.

 

^X2. Bill is right, that most likely is your best option, OP. It just sux that you drive a running truck in for some preventative maintenance & you can't drive out unless you buy a new engine. Good Luck.

 

I'd be getting a junk yard engine. Keep the old one for parts.

I blew the crank out of my old 95 Taco with the 2.7. Got a complete engine for $600, took a afternoon to do the swap and I was back in action.

Of course if money isn't an issue than by all means go for the new one from the dealer.

 

Doing something like that on your own is of course an option. As I mentioned, a lot of the decision is entirely up to the OP because only he knows what he can and can't do. Value is always important as well. I have seen junk yard motors go in and drive without a hitch, and seen some that didn't last long enough to drive out of a shop.

The important point here is that the OP should know by now that the dealership did not "break his crankshaft" or try to screw him over. The engine unfortunately was already in a danger zone. Better to find it now, than perhaps on a road trip 1000 miles from home. It is an unfortunate situation regardless.