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Did I damage something internally when replacing my ABS sensor?

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by fifteentango, Oct 13, 2023.

  1. Oct 22, 2023 at 1:58 PM
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    I assume the ADD was plugged in when you took these readings?
    If so, the whole ADD actuator is short. It’s down for the count.
    It never once hits 12v as expect.

    And the transfer case
    Well TL1 and TL2 have found a permanent ground.
    And TL3 can’t find a ground……..

    We should also note that you truck has likely never once made it into 4WD. Ever.
    As the 4WD detection switch has never been pulled to ground.

    Uhhhh…. I’m going to have to consult with @Dm93 on this one.



    And then there’s this?
    It seems the ADD wiring is grounded somewhere?

     
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  2. Oct 22, 2023 at 2:27 PM
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    Yeah everything was plugged in when I did all these tests. I've owned this truck for almost a decade, I can assure you that 4WD and 4LO have worked. I live way deep in the rocky mountains of Colorado and wheel this truck frequently.
     
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  3. Oct 22, 2023 at 3:00 PM
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    I mean it never went into 4WD at the transfer case during the testing.
     
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  4. Oct 22, 2023 at 3:02 PM
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    Right. When I flip the switch into 4WD I don't even get a sound or a click or hear anything try to do anything.
     
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  5. Oct 22, 2023 at 3:12 PM
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    Your result are showing the switch itself is working correctly.
    So that’s not the issue.

    TL2 is showing you in 4WD at all times. Even when you are in 2WD.
    And your ADD wire is being pulled to ground at all times (shorted to ground)

    According the Dm93’s shift sequence chart, the ADD won’t even attempt to engage or disengage until the transfer case limit switches are correct. I’m kind of waiting on Dm93 to see what route to take here.
     
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  6. Oct 22, 2023 at 4:22 PM
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    If my hypothesis of you having the pin numbers reversed when you checked voltages at the actuator plugs is correct I believe we already proved the wiring isn't shorted to ground but it wouldn't hurt to double check.


    Yea it appears there's a problem in both actuators, you said you replaced them but were they OE or aftermarket? Do you still have your old ones?


    It's basically in lockout mode because the limit switches aren't in a plausible range so it's not gona do anything until we remedy that.
     
  7. Oct 22, 2023 at 4:27 PM
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    He says, with the ADD unplugged, the ADD wire is still at 0v. And that’s checking at the 4WD ecu?
     
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  8. Oct 22, 2023 at 4:28 PM
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    I don't have the old ones anymore. I replaced the ADD actuator and went cheap. It worked for about a month, then failed. I replaced it with a more expensive one. It's this one right here: https://www.carparts.com/4WD-Actuat...k=2023-10-19T20:29:06Z&bsft_lx=25&bsft_tv=351

    I also replaced the transfer case actuator with this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08K8KS376

    When I replaced the transfer case actuator, I left the old rod in and installed the actuator around it. I'm pretty sure I did everything right, but maybe the contacts are in the wrong position?
     
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  9. Oct 22, 2023 at 4:40 PM
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    Pretty improbable for it to be 0v at the 4wd ECU end and 12v at the actuator end (the wire would have to be broken and shorted to ground on one end and making contact with another 12v source on the other end for that to happen) so something was missed there.

    If you tested the right pins it sure looks like something is going on in the ADD Actuator as all the limit switch circuits are pulled to ground with it plugged in.

    Very possible to mis-time it, I have to go back and look at your voltages again to see if it's in a plausible position.
    Meanwhile double check your voltages with the actuators unplugged (all the limit switch circuits should be at battery voltage), if that checks out I think we need to first see what's going on in the ADD Actuator.
     
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    :rofl:
    At this point, I’d unplug both actuators and see what my voltages are.
    I’m getting confused with all the test.
    Some were tested reversed, some were right.

    That’s just me. But that’s all I got….
     
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  11. Oct 22, 2023 at 5:05 PM
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    I'm heading outside right now to unplug the actuators and retest everything. Be back shortly.
     
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  12. Oct 22, 2023 at 5:27 PM
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    I unplugged both actuators and took measurements: Unplugged measurements.jpg
     
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  13. Oct 22, 2023 at 5:52 PM
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    Double check Pin 3 (Light Green/Black) at the ADD actuator and see what it is there.
     
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  14. Oct 22, 2023 at 6:07 PM
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    I disconnected and double checked and it's still 2.3mV
     
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  15. Oct 22, 2023 at 6:12 PM
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    Ok so we have nothing on that wire at the ADD Actuator end or the 4wd ECU end?
     
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  16. Oct 22, 2023 at 6:14 PM
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    That’s from the ECU. Did I do a stupid?
     
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  17. Oct 22, 2023 at 6:16 PM
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    No I just asked to verify you have the same reading at the ADD connector Pin 3 (Light Green/Black)
     
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  18. Oct 22, 2023 at 6:21 PM
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    ok give me a sec and I’ll go look at that. Looking at the connector, is it left to right 654321 or 123456?
     
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  19. Oct 22, 2023 at 6:21 PM
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    Srry for all the retesting, I'm just trying to make sure of our readings on that wire to be sure it really is pulled to ground so we aren't chasing our tail.
     
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  20. Oct 22, 2023 at 6:23 PM
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    Facing the connector on the vehicle side it should be 123456 but verify your wire color (Light Green/Black).
    [​IMG]
     
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