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Did you know you can get more out of your coil overs...?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Downsouth Motorsports, Jan 12, 2009.

  1. Jan 12, 2009 at 8:50 PM
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    Downsouth Motorsports

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    Many members have a set of either ICON, KING, or FOX coil over kits-

    BUT ALL MEMBERS DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ACCESSORIES OR DRIVING HABITS!

    Do you have a winch bumper and winch...? Light bar or push bar? Do you do more high speed or slow speed driving?

    When you ordered your set did they ask you these questions? Most often not and that my point exactly- not all trucks are the same, but all the kits come with the same valving and springs right?

    We specialize in custom shock tuning and have done EXTENSIVE WORK to the Tacoma coil overs. Ever wounder if what you have could be better? Or are you unhappy with the ride quality?

    Throw around some feedback and lets start a discussion on this topic and lets bring to light how different all of our trucks are! This should be interesting...

    Jon P
     
  2. Jan 12, 2009 at 8:52 PM
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    tigerfan00

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    this would be a great service....unfortunately i bought mine used...but theyre supposedly valved for the v6 tacoma...i added a winch bumper...but no winch...
     
  3. Jan 12, 2009 at 9:04 PM
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    Completely true. Most people dont realize that the dampening rates the coilover companies use (Fox, King, Icon, Sway-A-Way), are what the company thinks is the best for their product.

    On that note:
    I sent you guys an E-mail asking some questions along these lines.
    What is the spring rate of the spring used in your Coilovers?
    What is the rebound dampening rate?
    what is the compresion dampening rate?
    On the other coilovers that you "tune", what rates do you use?
    And, last but not least, can you make the rebound and dampening rates per a costomers request?
     
  4. Jan 12, 2009 at 9:14 PM
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    This is a great example! You purchased a "Used set" of coil overs- First thing do you know how long these were on the previous truck? What year they were purchased? When the last service was preformed?

    Im going to jump to conclusions but I am willing to bet you don't really know about the service history. Keep in mind these shocks are developed after the same race quality parts and accessories used in Baja, did you know that EVERY TIME a shock is finished with a race it is completely gone thru. Same goes with your shocks- have you checked to see if your Nitrogen levels are correct- or the same side to side? Do you know if your oil is cooked and preforming and half capacity? Have you looked at the shafts to see if they are "Pitted" from road debris and grime that will destroy seals?

    Guys think of these like a set of "Fake Boobs" they look good for ahwile then start to sag and then need to be redone! Same as your shocks- It is "PREVENTIVE MANTINANCE" just like a oil change in the motor! Not to mention you will get better performance and ride quality!

    Now onto the additional weight of the bumper and winch- The manufacterer didnt take into compensation for your additional 150 to 200lbs in weight. But we can! We make off the shelf shocks- INDIVIDUALS SHOCKS! We can rebuild your shock designed around "Your" needs- more compression for the weight, more slow speed because your a rock crawler instaed of a desert Pre Runner-

    These are features that allot of you dont know! Take yout truck to its maximum potential!

    - Here is the deal, Im going to take the first person who e-mails me and rebuild there shocks for FREE! You cover sghipping and whatever parts are worn and then I want a HONEST opion of this line I am feeding you...

    I want actual members to see results! Not words and I am willing to pay to show you that we can make a difference, and the difference is substancial and worth the minimum cost of a rebuild-

    My name is Jon P and I am calling out to a individual with unique needs, someone who is unhappy with there ride and want to put me and my partner to the TEST!

    JON P DSM
     
  5. Jan 12, 2009 at 9:16 PM
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    ill ship mine to you for rebuild...theyre SAW 2.0s

    ive been meaning to do it for awhile...just havent gotten around to it

    they had around 20K on them when i got them...but i dont know much about the rest of what you said haha
     
  6. Jan 12, 2009 at 9:17 PM
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    will that work or do i need to email you or pm you?
     
  7. Jan 12, 2009 at 9:19 PM
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    Well lets see what I get- I want an EXTREME CASE! As for the questions please resend them to me- I apologize for not responding quick enough!
     
  8. Jan 12, 2009 at 9:20 PM
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    trust me...mine are extreme...at least 5 or 6 good wheeling trips on them...they had 20K on them when i got them...ive put at least that much on them since then...and do NOTHING towards taking care of them...
     
  9. Jan 12, 2009 at 9:24 PM
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    Good evening,
    Hi everyone this is Sonny...I hope that all is well...
    I get to answer this one....
    Example King Replacement coilovers for a Tacoma '05-'09...Lance and I have been
    bouncing back and forth on spring rate...Usually 500 lb. single spring rate and the valving is usually 20 Flutter over 12 or straight 20 in the ones that I have opened up..
    All 3 Bleed holes are open and they use a standard Pre-Runner Piston..

    As for valving, I am always open to try whatever you would like and I have always said that if you do not like the valving, I will re-valve the shocks one time for No Charge and the customer just pays the shipping...

    As for rates some people like to add more Pre-Load, like for a winch bumper and winch..Or add 50 lbs. more to the rate...We have also experimented with adding more nitrogen...Still in the experimental stage..Do not try that at home...HA,HA

    Anyway we are here to help and let myself or Jon know if there is anything that
    we can help any of you with and "Thank you" for the business you have sent us, we appreciate it...

    Thank you,
    Sonny
     
  10. Jan 12, 2009 at 9:25 PM
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    Sorry mine was for Chris 4x4
     
  11. Jan 12, 2009 at 9:27 PM
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    here's what mine looked like when i bought them
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    day of install
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    they were installed in march of 08...and i think i had around 80K miles at that point

    ive wheeled them (with no regard for taking care of anything) at harlan twice, ure, and gulches at least 3 times
     
  12. Jan 12, 2009 at 9:28 PM
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    I got my kings used with what i was told 5k miles on them, ive gone out to the desert twice on them and I dont wheel that hard and im always bottoming out in the front. Im in San Diego!!!!
     
  13. Jan 12, 2009 at 9:29 PM
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    We want to show and have a member respond on what your trucks can achieve with the proper set up! From there all I ask is for a HONSET reflection as to what differences you recived...

    Jon P
     
  14. Jan 12, 2009 at 9:30 PM
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    dont worry i would GLADLY try them out as soon as i got them back and reflect on both the on road and offroad ride
     
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    Im willing to do that, I dont know your rates but i would wanna have my stuff rebuilt
     
  16. Jan 12, 2009 at 9:31 PM
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    either way though at some point mine are going to need a rebuild/revalve and now that i know yall do it...its gonna make it a lot easier to make the decision to do it
     
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    Tiger PM me your info along with number and I will call you tomorrow to set up a rebuild- I need some of your time getting specifics then I will give you our shipping address and away we go- ONLY IF YOU ARE WILLING TO ALSO SPEND THE TIME TO GO OVER YOUR EXPERIENCES AND WHAT YOU GOT OUT OF OUR SERVICE...

    DEAL..?

    JON P- Its on my buck so make me proud! I dont mean Lie- just be honest!
    Our work speaks for itself!
     
  18. Jan 12, 2009 at 9:34 PM
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    definately...i will go as in depth as possible when i get them back...pm coming
     
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  20. Jan 13, 2009 at 6:33 AM
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    can you guys do a "progressive" damping rate? Or "Speed variable"?
     
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