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difference in types of headers?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by supremetaco2, Jul 23, 2009.

  1. Jul 23, 2009 at 12:27 PM
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    supremetaco2

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    anybody know the difference between the types of headers? like ceramic coated stainless steel vs stainless steel vs chrome?
     
  2. Jul 23, 2009 at 12:29 PM
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    chris4x4

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    The ceramic coated ones are supposed to reduce under hood heat. The Stainless ones are more than the crome, and the crome look purty.
     
  3. Jul 23, 2009 at 12:31 PM
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    oooh okay just ordered the chrome ones :) cuz im pretty broke ass
     
  4. Jul 23, 2009 at 1:55 PM
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    What motor do you have and what year is your truck. there is a diff when it comes to Long tube VS Short tube headers.:D
     
  5. Jul 23, 2009 at 2:57 PM
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    There is, but that wasnt an option to choose from...;)
     
  6. Jul 23, 2009 at 6:38 PM
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    i have a 2004 tacoma prerunner 3.4l v6 2wd, ordered the gibson chrome headers for it.. i know it will add power, but will it add sound as well? jus wondering
     
  7. Jul 23, 2009 at 7:03 PM
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    Not really.
     
  8. Jul 23, 2009 at 9:38 PM
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  9. Jul 23, 2009 at 9:45 PM
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    What is the diffrence between long and short???
     
  10. Jul 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM
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    long headers delete two cats, short headers dont
     
  11. Jul 24, 2009 at 6:08 AM
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    Cats are your choice, the differnce is where the power band would be. I think Long is more top end, and Short is More Low End power.
     
  12. Jul 24, 2009 at 6:19 AM
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    Uhh...no, short tube Headers are called so because they extend shorter from the engine for you to keep your two cats, long tube headers extend all the way to your y-pipe, thus deleting your two cats. Plus short tube headers require cutting n welding
     
  13. Jul 24, 2009 at 6:26 AM
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    Dude im not going to argue with you on this, but that Cats are not the man Reason for the difference in the Length of the tubes. go ask any Performance shop!
     
  14. Jul 24, 2009 at 8:41 PM
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    So which ones are typically prefered?
     
  15. Jul 25, 2009 at 3:09 PM
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    LCEngineering only makes Long tube, I think most people use the long tube. and Not all of the 1st Gens have 2 cats. But I think any choice would be a good one. Just check reviews, some have been known to crack.;)
     
  16. Jul 25, 2009 at 3:11 PM
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    I personally prefer a Try-Y header.
     
  17. Jul 25, 2009 at 3:16 PM
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    long tubes generally create more power throughout the whole rpm band. They may feel a little more sluggish off the line, but once the scavaging effect starts to take place, that exhaust just flys out. Of course, it also depends on your cam specs as well. you dont want to get a large header if the exhaust durration on your cam is small. I wouldn't worry too much about that unless you are going for all out racing ;)

    I would stick with long tubes in probably 99% of all applications though. Coated headers are nice because they usually dont rust and keep the heat down, stainless shouldnt rust, look awesome,, but keep the temps high under the hood which you want to reduce, and chrome will rust over time because they are just coated steel.
     
  18. Jul 25, 2009 at 3:21 PM
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    The shorty headers on our trucks have a power curve that mimicks the DTLT's. Regardless of header, your only looking at a few hp gain. The DTLT's have a weird power spike at 3500 to 4200 rpm, I belive this is when the VVT begins, which leads me to belive they are not tuned for the 4.0 engine to maximise scavenging thruout the rev range.
     
  19. Jul 25, 2009 at 3:30 PM
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    that very well could be. i havent looked into headers for trucks...just when i used to race my transam. for giggles, heres a comparison of long tube headers vs 2001 stock manifolds and 1999 stock manifolds for said transam. the stockers were practically shorties already.
     
  20. Jul 25, 2009 at 3:44 PM
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    Yeah, I have messed around with exauhsts and headers on those engines, as well as many others.
     
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