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Different length shackles to correct Taco lean?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by kumaWRX, Feb 15, 2010.

  1. Feb 15, 2010 at 10:23 PM
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    kumaWRX

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    On my truck I have SAW 2.0s in the front and the Wheeler's 3-leaf AAL in the rear which didn't give me the advertised 1.5inch lift. My current measurements are(measured from the ground to the bottom of each fender is):

    LF: 38.25"
    RF: 38.25"
    LR: 36.25"
    RR: 36.75"

    I need to raise the rear of the truck up some because it looks stupid right now. My left coilover is cranked up about 1/4" higher than the right to attempt to correct the lean but it helped a little but not enough. My question is has anyone ever tried to use different length shackles, maybe made by Roger Brown, to correct the lean? I don't have money for new leaf packs yet as I just installed the AAL. Any help/comments are appreciated.
     
  2. Feb 15, 2010 at 10:27 PM
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    Engage Offroad long travel front and rear with some fat tires.
    what rear shocks are you running?
     
  3. Feb 15, 2010 at 10:29 PM
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    Engage Offroad long travel front and rear with some fat tires.
    i meant what travel length are you running?

    one side needs to be longer by .5"

    i think its the passenger side that needs to be longer...
     
  4. Feb 15, 2010 at 10:44 PM
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    Right now I have the stock Tokico blue shocks but will be ordering Bilstein 5100 rear shocks, I think the part numbers are D559/D560 driver's/passenger's respectively. I think they're good for 2-3 inch lift?
     
  5. Feb 15, 2010 at 11:03 PM
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    Engage Offroad long travel front and rear with some fat tires.
    wait until you have the extended length shocks...

    with the stock shocks (6.5" travel), you are limiting the rear lift and the passenger side is going to end up .5" shorter... if you were to lift the truck up and take the stock shocks off, you will notice the cycling of the suspension is greater than the extended length of the shocks...

    that could be the reason for the significant measurement discrepancies...

    once you get the 5100s on, look at the measurements...
     
  6. Feb 15, 2010 at 11:08 PM
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    Wow, I never even thought of that! I will order the shocks and assess the situation then. Thanks Mike. :thumbsup:
     
  7. Feb 15, 2010 at 11:13 PM
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    Engage Offroad long travel front and rear with some fat tires.
    if you haven't order the shocks yet, there is a another option to go that will yield a lil more travel out of your rear end...

    PM me for the secret...

    :thumbsup:
     
  8. Feb 15, 2010 at 11:28 PM
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  10. Feb 16, 2010 at 8:45 PM
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    Damn, so I was jacking up the rear of my truck and it turns out I can raise the back a good 3 inches so the stock Tokicos aren't limiting the rear lift :( I wanted that to be the problem, so I guess my original question still stands.
     
  11. Feb 16, 2010 at 10:46 PM
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    Engage Offroad long travel front and rear with some fat tires.
    huh?

    did you take the shocks off and then lift the truck by the frame and let the rear axle drop?

    thats strange...

    don't know what to tell ya brah...
     
  12. Feb 16, 2010 at 10:58 PM
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    will it work for second gens also.
     
  13. Feb 16, 2010 at 11:01 PM
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    Engage Offroad long travel front and rear with some fat tires.
    i haven't tried it on a 2nd gen only cuz you guys have that reversed shackles thing and the different shock mounts...
     
  14. Feb 16, 2010 at 11:07 PM
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    yea too bad they dont make drop hangers for the second gen.

    To the op mike is right the stock length shocks limit the travel and can effect the height difference.
     
  15. Feb 17, 2010 at 9:13 PM
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    I didn't take off the shocks cuz the bolts are frozen, lol. I jacked my truck up from the receiver hitch and let the axle droop down. I could jack the truck up about 3 inches before the shocks "topped out" and the axle started coming off the ground.

    Now I'm kinda leaning towards diff length shackles or just saying screw it and get Dakars(since I occasionally haul stuff) even though I installed the 3 leaf AAL not too long ago :( Also I would get killed on the shipping.
     
  16. Feb 17, 2010 at 9:21 PM
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    Engage Offroad long travel front and rear with some fat tires.
    you're not cycling the suspension correctly... you need to get the shocks off to see how much true travel you have... the axle came off the ground cuz the shocks topped out... if you unbolt the shocks from the axle, then lift it again from the hitch, the axle should drop down further than what it is currently doing...

    if the bolts are seized, spray them down with wd40 or hit with liquid wrench, then get a breaker bar from pep boys ($15 to $24) or slide a pipe at least 24 inches over your rachet handle and break the bolts loose...
     
  17. Feb 19, 2010 at 12:00 AM
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    Ok, I just unbolted the rear shocks and it is not limiting the rear lift. When I unbolted the bottom bolt of the shocks, the shock went 2 inches below the lower shock mount which means I could lift the truck 2 more inches or so and only then the shocks will start to limit the lift. Right now all I want to remedy is the ass end of the truck is too low, and correcting the Taco lean too but the sagging is goal #1.
     
  18. Feb 19, 2010 at 7:10 AM
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    Engage Offroad long travel front and rear with some fat tires.
    with the shocks unbolted, does the axle hang straight?

    if you have the lean when the truck is sitting, the axle should hang unevenly if its the AALs that are messing it up...

    if its only uneven when the truck is sitting on the wheels, there is something else going on...

    running offset shackles might be awkward and im not sure what that tweak in the suspension geometry might impact the weight distribution on the axle... i would think the longer shackle would be pushing down on the one side, but if you want to try it, you should need a shackle that is 1 inch longer than stock...
     
  19. Feb 27, 2010 at 1:04 AM
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    *update*

    Just finished installing the rear 5100 shocks and a pair of Toytec 1" lift shackles. My truck is almost level now, sits about 1/2" lower in the rear, much better than before. I think all I have to do now is lower the front a little then it should sit perfect.

    LF: 38.50
    RF: 38.50
    LR: 38.00
    RR: 38.00
     
  20. Apr 28, 2010 at 6:59 PM
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