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Discussion in 'All Terrain Vehicles' started by Lentsnh, Apr 7, 2009.

  1. Apr 7, 2009 at 5:42 PM
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    tacoma08MZ

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    True bap 29. i do agree there easier to work on but to tell you the truth my 250f is a 2004. I havent had to touch my engine/valves ect... since ive had it. and it definitly gets ridin hard. Just the usual stuff like you said filter oil chain and other wear and tear items and shes been runnin like a champ. I guess everyone will have there own opinion! its just personal preference like anything else!
     
  2. Apr 7, 2009 at 5:44 PM
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    no problem man. were here to help! now if you havnt already, check out the dirtrider.com forum. its awesome. you'll learn so much about dirt bikes just by reading those threads. you should make an account over there too, so you can ask more questions and get some advice from some more dirt bike "addicts"! haha
     
  3. Apr 7, 2009 at 5:46 PM
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    BAP_29

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    yeah man the 4 st vs 2 st battle will never end. i just love the hit of a good ol 2- stroke!
     
  4. Apr 7, 2009 at 6:03 PM
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    Lentsnh

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  5. Apr 8, 2009 at 2:40 PM
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    Id have to disagree with you on this one. 4-strokes have waaaaay more maintenance. With a 2-stroke you have to mix the gas, change the sparkplug every now and then and you may need to do a topend rebuild (new piston, piston rings, wristpin and gaskets) once or twice a year if you ride every day. A topend rebuild for a 2-stroke is about $100.
    On a 4-stroke, you have to change the oil about every 10 hours, adjust the valves as needed, replace the piston about every 50 hours and get the cylinder head/valvetrain rebuild anywhere from every 50-200 hours. When you grenade a 4-stroke and need to rebuild it, you are talking a VERY expensive repair. Usually that costs anywhere from $1,200-$1,500.
    No thanks, I'll keep my 2-stroke.
     
  6. Apr 8, 2009 at 2:41 PM
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    IMO, Dirtrider is kinda lame. Thumpertalk and Allthingsmoto.com are much better forums than Dirtrider.
     
  7. Apr 8, 2009 at 2:45 PM
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    But if you havent read my other posts ill dissagree right back, like i said ive had my 250f for about 5 years and have NEVER had to touch the engine on it. and trust me it doesnt get babied. But maybe i have some magical 4 stroke that never needs any repairs. I still say a 4 stroke is a way better beginner bike to learn on than a 2 stroke. Like was said before, its a personal thing to each his own, just like we own tacomas that we know are superior to all other trucks!
     
  8. Apr 8, 2009 at 4:47 PM
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    No matter what brand if I where you I would go with a 250 because your a big dude..
     
  9. Apr 8, 2009 at 6:09 PM
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    You obviously havnt checked it out enough. i love the dirtrider forum!
     
  10. Apr 12, 2009 at 11:43 AM
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    I grew up racing MX.

    I am 47, 6'4", 200lbs. I would say get a 2005-07 Yamaha yz250 2-stroke.
    Great bike, great suspension, easy to work on & get parts for. PLUS, easy to start. Once you lay down a thumper, especially upsidedown on a trail. good luck starting it.

    You are way too big for a 125. You will need the xtrapower at times down the road.

    I have ridden most of the new 250/450 4 strokes. Neat bikes, smooth power, & fast. More challanging & $$$ to maintain (change the oil & oil filter every 3-4 rides).

    MX is 95% ride & 5% machine. The motor is your body. Wear ALL of your equipment at ALL times. On my 06 YZ250 I have smoked guys on 450f's & have been passed by kids on CR 85's.

    Off road/trails/ MX on bikes is pure enjoyment! Don't think about quads!
     
  11. Apr 12, 2009 at 11:56 AM
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    I agree. A few years back I bought myself a 2004 Suzuki RM125 (2 stroke) and have enjoyed it a lot. The bike is very reliable and starts on the first kick nearly every time. It still has enough power to take me up in the air as far as I please. For someone your size, an RM250 or other 250 two stroke would be great, but you need to learn how to ride before you get out there and potentially hurt yourself. I'm only 5'11' and a lightweight at 140 pounds so the 125 suits me pretty well for just playing around.
     
  12. Apr 16, 2009 at 8:44 PM
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    I only partially agree with this, a four stroke is easier to go faster on for a beginner because they are so rider friendly, (smooth power delivery and tractability), but because of this you pick up bad habits and become lazier while riding.
    If you want to learn how to ride, and how to ride good, and maybe get into the racing aspect then I would suggest a 125 two stroke. Sure it doesnt have as much power as other bike's, but this way you will be able to learn how to ride the bike to its fullest potential, and so that when you are ready to move up to a bigger platform you will have all the basics covered and can take that next bike to its fullest potential.
     
  13. Apr 16, 2009 at 9:30 PM
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    To me, being almost 16 and on a 250 with not so much experience could end up bad. =/ Don't want you to get hurt lents.

    I always thought I was too big for a 125, so I got a 250. Then when I thought I was a good rider, (not much exp) I got on a 2008 YZ450F. I sh!t myself! I'll probably never get on a 450 again.

    But anyways, Lents, do what seems best to you and what you can afford. It's all about fun and what you want to do. If you listen to yourself, you'll come out happy. :thumbsup:
     
  14. Apr 16, 2009 at 10:13 PM
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    Thanks bro for looking out for me. I wouldnt dare get on a 450F I bet it was scary.

    So a 125 2-stroke will be perfect for a beginner like myself
     
  15. Apr 16, 2009 at 10:22 PM
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    I think you should get a Honda 250crf or if your experienced and ride in the dunes then a 450.
    I have no idea what these guys are talking about, 2 strokes have a lot more maintenance. I have a KTM 250SX 2003, and i have rebuilt the engine twice that i remember and tons of other jobs i had to do on it. Honda is definitely the most reliable company and with a 4stroke you will have less maintenance.

    Plus 4 strokes nowadays can beat a 2stroke anyday. Thats a 2 stroke owner saying that.

    Another thing, they are not making 2 strokes anymore so parts will be easier to get with a 4stroke.
     
  16. Apr 17, 2009 at 3:03 AM
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    first part agreed, second half way disagree with you...first off i dont see how you could say 4 stroke riders develope bad habits, dont learn how to ride good AND not get into racing by having one...i am not by any means a lazy rider did not pick up any bad habits after getting my 250f and after ten years i can ride pretty damn good...turn on the tv and watch some racing, pro motocross racing and the riders have been taken over by 4 strokes, still not saying there better but i just dont see were your getting your info from
     
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    bro, to start off with go with a yamaha. three of my friends have had to put a whole new set of valves in their suzuki and honda 250f bikes. i personally ride the yz250f, and love it. ive got two of them, and i'll always ride yamaha.. good luck!
     
  19. Apr 18, 2009 at 7:28 PM
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    i've raced honda's, kawasaki's and yamaha's. Yamaha my fav by far they have been the most reliable and suited my riding style the best for me. sounds like there are a few other people on here that feel the same way. a 125 sounds like it would be a good choice for you at this time. 2-strokes are much much easier and cheeper to maintain. good luck in finding a bike that suites you.
     
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