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Do you put weight in back of your truck?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas' started by harshest, Dec 19, 2008.

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Do you put weight in the bed

  1. Yes

    40.3%
  2. No

    20.2%
  3. No need I have 4x4.

    39.5%
  1. Dec 20, 2008 at 6:54 AM
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    007Tacoma

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    I put weight in the bed, but only when I am going to be dealing with snow/ice. I will have ~45lbs of tools and 150lbs of sand bags in my bed for the trip out to Kentucky.
     
  2. Dec 20, 2008 at 9:31 AM
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    OK, so I bought 3 50# bags of rock salt today at Lowes. I wanted to verify placement in the bed. From what I understand, it needs to be above the axle. So in my short bed DC, they should *almost* be at the front of the bed, correct?

    I think the truck rides better with the weight back there. (maybe i'm crazy)
     
  3. Dec 20, 2008 at 11:47 AM
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    stratton

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    Yeah salt is a killer on cars and trucks here in ny. They use a crap load of it on the roads to the point that the roads are white once the melted snow evaporates.
     
  4. Dec 20, 2008 at 11:47 AM
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    thanks for the heads up -- I've got a tonneau cover, so hopefully most moisture stays out. I plan on bagging the bags of salt for extra protection.
     
  5. Dec 20, 2008 at 11:48 AM
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    stratton

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    Oh and plus if you ever do get stuck on ice you can open the bags of salt or sand and use it for traction.
     
  6. Dec 20, 2008 at 11:49 AM
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    ya that's what I was thinking... plus I was standing next to the salt at Lowes and the Sand was on the other side of the store... my laziness made the decision for me... lol
     
  7. Dec 20, 2008 at 3:23 PM
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    thanks!
     
  8. Dec 20, 2008 at 4:34 PM
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    I put 5 60# bags of tube sand in the back after the first snow here, it definitely made a difference.
     
  9. Dec 20, 2008 at 4:37 PM
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    I dont put weight in the back because I have a 4x4. If the roads and snowy/icy, I click it into 4x4 and Im good to go. If I had a 4x2 Id definetly be putting weight in the back though.
     
  10. Dec 20, 2008 at 4:52 PM
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    I have 2 40 kg bags of salt sitting over the rear axle.

    I built a box today using pressure treated wood and used cargo straps to hold it in place. The box is nice because it keeps stuff that I put in there from sliding to the front of the trukck box.

    Even with 4x4 having the weight over the rear axle is nice and I have found it does make a difference.
     
  11. Dec 20, 2008 at 6:44 PM
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    Nothing in the bed except snow. If the weather is bad I'll just put it in 4x4.
     
  12. Dec 22, 2008 at 10:38 AM
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    I knew I'd have issues in the winter without a 4 X 4 here in Manitoba, but it's not too bad.
    I tried driving after the first snow fall when the roads were pretty much pure ice. Not as bad as I thought, but there was one stop sign at the bottom of a hill where I took awhile to make it up. Good thing there's not many hills around here!
    I'm pretty cheap so I don't want to put too much weight in and compromise fuel economy, so I have about 100 lbs. over the rear axel right now. It should probably be more, but I'm getting around just fine. Just have to be careful out there, especially while starting from a stand-still when there's other vehicles coming towards me.
     
  13. Dec 22, 2008 at 11:38 AM
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    Seems to me you'd want the bags as far back in the bed as possible to have the greatest effect. I have 4 bags of tube sand and it seems to work better then none at all.
     
  14. Dec 22, 2008 at 12:06 PM
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    That can be detrimental for two reasons:

    1) Since the weight is at the rear of the vehicle, you end up with a pendulum effect on the horizontal plane in a turn with the brakes applied on ice, gravel, oil, or any other wet or loose surface. It is the same feeling as if you were holding down the throttle through a turn and start doing donuts, but your wheels are still trying to slow down without traction. This can cause the rear end to violently swing around.

    2) You can have the same effect on the vertical plane, but it isn't necessarily exclusive to winter driving or low traction situations. If all the weight is in the rear of the bed, the frame begins to act as a spring board (think of a diving board). Every bump you hit causes a bouncing effect that isn't controlled by the suspension but rather by the frame itself.

    Any payload in a vehicle should have the weight distributed evenly over the axle(s) to maximize handling, ride stability, and control. The first thing you need for traction (even before weight in the bed) is a good set of tires that match the conditions that you will be driving your truck in.
     
  15. Dec 22, 2008 at 5:47 PM
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    After seeing this thread, I will definitely be throwing some sandbags in the bed when I make trips up to the mountains in the winter time.
     
  16. Dec 22, 2008 at 6:03 PM
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    I leave my truck in 4 wheel drive and play it smart, no sand or weight.
     
  17. Dec 23, 2008 at 8:47 AM
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    How does the truck distinguish a heavy weight in the bed and over the rear axle from a lighter weight further back that creates a similar moment?
     
  18. Dec 23, 2008 at 8:52 AM
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    4 bags @ 60lbs a piece. It helps, but there's no substitution for smart driving.
     
  19. Dec 23, 2008 at 9:11 AM
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    We don't have snow down here and rarely have any appreciable ice, but we get our share of rain. I started keeping about 8 concrete blocks in the bed and I like the way she drives now much better. I am much less likely to start hydroplaning in a heavy rain now.
     
  20. Dec 23, 2008 at 11:05 AM
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    When driving straight forward on even ground, it does not make a big enough difference where the weight is placed. In many cases, as long as there is sufficient weight in the bed it will provide sufficient downward force on the tires to assist in traction.

    However, the two situations that I described are different from driving straight down a smooth road. Situation #1 can happen in a turn (horizontal change in direction). Situation #2 can happen when going down a bumpy road (vertical change in direction). In either case, if the weight is too far to rear, that weight "swings" (situation #1) or "bounces" (situation #2) causing unsafe driving conditions.

    The reason you put the weight over the axle instead of all the way forward: it distributes the weight evenly on the bed, the frame, and the suspension. This causes the downward force to be over the tires where the traction is needed.
     
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