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Dobinsons 16+ Taco Suspension

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by Dobinsons Mike, Feb 7, 2017.

  1. Feb 7, 2017 at 2:43 PM
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    Dobinsons Mike

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    2" Dobinsons front and rear suspension, Dobinsons prototype front winch bumper. Coming soon will be rear roller drawer kit, and parabolic rear leaf springs.
    I just realized I only ever put a post in the 2nd gen section, so I didn't want to leave everyone else out with the 2016+ 3rd Gen models.

    For 4x4 and Prerunner Dual Cab Tacoma's for 2016+ models.

    Dobinsons is most known (in the Land Cruiser world) for their coil spring options, so here's our list:
    Front Coils -
    C59-296 - 15mm (1/2") lift, Stock front end, 586#
    C59-300 - 25mm (1.0") lift, Stock front end, 586#
    C59-302 - 40mm (1.6") lift, Stock front end, 586#
    C59-314 - 50mm (2.0") lift, Medium load front end (50-110lbs), 586# - lifts 2.5" with no front weight
    C59-352 - 50mm (2.0") lift, Heavy load front end (110-240lbs), or 60mm lift (2.4") lift with no weight on front end, 730#
    C59-354 - 60mm (2.4") lift, Heavy load front end (110-240lbs), or 70mm lift (2.75") lift with no weight on front end, 730#
    C59-448 - 75mm (3.0") lift, Stock front end, comfort option, reduced spring rate, 500#

    **Dobinsons coils will fit Bilstein struts and many other brands. They're not an exclusive cut/shape/size as far as the ends of the coils are concerned.

    Front struts
    GS59-221 - Twin tube, nitrogen charged, suitable for 1.5 to 2.5" of lift.
    GS59-220 - Twin tube, nitrogen charged, suitable for 2.5" to 3.0" of lift. Longer travel, taller coil seat height

    Strut top caps
    SC59-001 - We can assemble coils on the struts for you before shipping for an extra cost, saving you time for the install at home

    Diff Drop Kit
    DD59-527K - Suits Tacoma, 4Runner, FJ Cruiser, Hilux and Fortuner. Includes spacers for skid plate drop too.

    Front UCA's
    UCA59-003K - Suits 2005 to current Tacomas. Pair of replacement upper control arms to fix alignment issues with 2.5"+ lift heights. Use OE type rubber bushes on the frame end, and replaceable 555 Japanese high angle ball joint on the wheel side. 38mm OD tube, 5mm wall thickness (0.2") HSLA steel. Fixed caster of 3 degrees built in. Strongest and thickest build on the market. Ball joints don't come installed, but we offer that for additional cost prior to shipping.


    Here are the specs of the leaf spring options:

    Leaf Springs
    L59-111-R
    4+2 Leaves, Raised Height (55mm Lift, 2.1"), Heavy Duty, 280KG constant load
    **Remove a leaf for light load/empty rear ends on these springs.

    L59-112-R
    5+1 Leaves, Raised Height (55mm Lift, 2.1"), Super Heavy Duty, 400-550KG constant load

    Rear Bushing Kit
    PB59-1101K
    Full rear poly bush kit, for fixed end and shackle ends, both sides, contains 12 x 1/2 bushings and sleeves (1 needed per vehicle), which covers both sides fixed end, and both end of the shackle (3 positions per leaf spring).

    Rear Leaf Spring Greasable Pins
    SP59-060
    Greasable pins (bolts), zinc coated, gold appearance, designed to be able to grease bushing without removing, saving the time and effort to pull it out and regrease it (common with some brands of leaf springs). Can work on both ends of the leaf spring, so 4 per vehicle would be needed (sold individually or as pairs).

    U-Bolts
    UB59-453-2K
    U-bolt kits, zinc coated, gold appearance. Sold as a pair, so 2 needed per vehicle.

    Rear shocks
    GS59-940 - Twin tube, nitrogen charged, suitable for 2-3" lift.

    Quick Ride Kit
    QR59-551K
    Contains 2 x 2" spacer blocks and suitable longer u-bolts to lift the rear 2" without removing or changing OE leaf springs. Angled to correct pinion angle. Suitable for people on a budget, or not wanting to change rear ride quality from stock. Does require longer shocks.


    Here's our suspension builder page: https://www.dobinsonsdirect.com/pro...0-suspension-kit-for-2005-to-2019-tacoma-4x4/

    Full Kit Medium Springs (Large).jpg
    Full Kit Parabolic Springs (Large).jpg
    DD59-527K DIFF DROP KIT.jpg

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  2. Feb 7, 2017 at 3:14 PM
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    2" Dobinsons front and rear suspension, Dobinsons prototype front winch bumper. Coming soon will be rear roller drawer kit, and parabolic rear leaf springs.
    Here is our truck with the 448 coils and a winch bumper up front, so riding about 2.5" high up front. On the back is the quick ride 2" kit, really testing the limits of the stock leaf springs with the rack, tent, and awning back there. But that's part of the fun...

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  3. Feb 7, 2017 at 3:47 PM
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    Truck and setup looks good, deffinetly seems like a cheaper alternative for most. How do these kits handle off the beaten path?
     
  4. Feb 7, 2017 at 3:55 PM
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    Can anyone chime in how these kits perform for the 2nd gens?
     
  5. Apr 5, 2017 at 10:32 AM
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  6. Apr 5, 2017 at 11:21 AM
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    Do you make a 75mm spring with a 700lb spring rate? I have about 180 pounds of bumper and winch up front on 5100's and OME886 coils and I'm sagging quite a bit. Also interested to see if your springs are flat bottom for use on coilovers that adjust from the bottom.
     
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  7. Apr 5, 2017 at 1:29 PM
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    2" Dobinsons front and rear suspension, Dobinsons prototype front winch bumper. Coming soon will be rear roller drawer kit, and parabolic rear leaf springs.
    I just sent you a PM. I wouldn't ever use or recommend a spring that heavy on a Tacoma. Our 300, 302 and 314 coils are all 586 LBS rate and they support our Tacoma just right. You have to consider spring length and the rate when choosing coils.

    Our springs aren't a flat bottom, they have the same pigtail as an OE coil, so you can use our coils on a factory strut, or any other strut that uses an OE style pigtail (5100, OME, Dobinsons, Monroe, etc).
     
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  8. Apr 5, 2017 at 1:41 PM
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    I looked at Dobinson a while back, I want to say it seemed like mostly a South American Market at the time, I didnt recall any Tacoma products previously, good to see them posted here.
     
  9. Apr 5, 2017 at 7:15 PM
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    any update on the parabolic leafs ?
     
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  10. Apr 6, 2017 at 7:06 AM
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    Due 3rd week of May.
     
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  11. Oct 23, 2017 at 4:30 PM
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    Reviving an old thread. Anyone here running dobbinsons?
     
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  12. Oct 23, 2017 at 4:35 PM
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    Don't think so. They are mostly South American so will be a while before they break in I think.
     
  13. Oct 23, 2017 at 4:52 PM
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    I'm also in the t4r world and there are quite a few folks running dobinsons over there. Particularly on t4r forum. I've not seen any negative reviews on their stuffs. Everything seems reasonably priced as well. And the interactions ice had with their customer service has been top notch. I'm just wanting a bit of feed back. I may just have to be a guinea pig
     
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  14. Oct 23, 2017 at 6:50 PM
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    Land Cruiser crowd has been testing the waters...their tapered/dual rate coils have been well regarded.
     
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    I've heard a lot of good things about parabolic leafs and really interested in them. I hear you can get a lot more flex out of them
     
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    2" Dobinsons front and rear suspension, Dobinsons prototype front winch bumper. Coming soon will be rear roller drawer kit, and parabolic rear leaf springs.
    We cancelled the parabolics for now. They're very difficult to remotely design and get the ride quality correct. The first production samples we had arrive back in the early summer had clearance issues because of the upside down shackle, and the ground clearance was also compromised with the spacing of the leaves. No one wants reduced ground clearance, and the front spring hanger is quite low, if one of the leaves hit a rock or anything, it wouldn't be fun to deal with.

    With how busy our 4runner and land cruiser suspension sales were, we held that project off for now, plus we had the medium and heavy load standard type leaf springs that have been working out great for those running them.

    We recently made a super heavy load leaf pack for @TorconTRD He should be able to post up his summary of them. He's running the first Dobinsons MRR (Monotube Remote Reservoir) suspension on that truck too after removing his Radflo/Dakar suspension.

    Also @POOLGUY is running our full suspension on his 2008 Tacoma work truck, always full of pool gear.


    **prototype snorkel is also on Torcon's truck

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  17. May 2, 2018 at 9:07 PM
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    With the softer longer springs will sag be a problem if I added weight to the front end later?
    These ones-
    C59-448 - 75mm (3.0") lift, Stock front end, comfort option, reduced spring rate, 500#

    Or if i went with the heavy rate springs will I beat myself to death with a stiff ride without the extra weight in the front? 730#s is a stiff spring.
     
  18. May 3, 2018 at 9:22 AM
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    2" Dobinsons front and rear suspension, Dobinsons prototype front winch bumper. Coming soon will be rear roller drawer kit, and parabolic rear leaf springs.
    Hi mate. I wouldn't suggest the 448 coils unless the front will stay with stock weight they would compress fairly easily if you add a bumper and winch. The c59-314 may be a better option for you at 586lb rate. Gotta choose coils based on your build and try to set it all up at the same time.
     
  19. May 3, 2018 at 10:05 AM
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    I would probably only do a low profile bumper insert and winch so only adding about 150lbs.

    How much lift should I expect before and after adding the 150lbs with the 314 coils?

    I noticed your build has the 448 with a full bumper yet you don’t recommend that. Can you explain further please?

    Are the 352 coils too heavy to run comfortably without additional load up front?

    I’m only going to be running 265/75r16 tires so I think the 448 at 3” lift would probably be too high without any weight. I’m just concerned the 314 might sit too low after adding the weight. I’m not lifting for large tire clearance. I’m lifting for approach angle and so I can increase rear load capacity. And of course because it looks better with a couple inches.
     
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  20. May 3, 2018 at 10:09 AM
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    Went from Old Man Emu with their extra leaf (Heavy Pack) to the Dobinsons Super Heavy rear. I've been super pleased with them.
    The ride has been excellent, off road it does very well, and I gained +1" ride height in the rear.

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