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Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by lilgerber, Nov 15, 2012.

  1. Nov 15, 2012 at 11:07 AM
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    Installed my 3.5 TC kit and seems like the upper A arm is almost at full droop.
    Doesn't seem right, how do I fix this??
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    P.S. I haven't installed limit straps yet
     
  2. Nov 15, 2012 at 11:09 AM
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    Take some of the preload off, did you torque them while the truck was on it's own weight? That might be a factor.
     
  3. Nov 15, 2012 at 11:10 AM
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    Actually I don't know much about LT, it might be correct :notsure:
     
  4. Nov 15, 2012 at 11:42 AM
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    Definitely not right.

    What length stroke are the shocks?
    What length springs?
    How much preload?
    Which bottom plate do you have?
    How long is the rod end on the shock?
     
  5. Nov 15, 2012 at 11:43 AM
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    Damn Beat me to it ^^^^^Show some side front shots of the arms. What rod end are you using? What length coilovers and what spring rate?
     
  6. Nov 15, 2012 at 11:44 AM
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    caged, camburg long travel, 50t leafpack (soon to be installed) light rack over cab, 5pt harnesses etc
    something sure isnt right. how much lift did you get when you installed it??
     
  7. Nov 15, 2012 at 11:45 AM
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    It looks like its just the preload. Did you just install everything and its all brand new? Did you already get everything aligned at that ride height? You can let off some preload and it will drop but that is going to change your alignment. You should have let some preload off to get it close to ride height to get it aligned properly, then once the springs break in and sag you can give it more preload to bring it back to the correct ride height. Also install those straps!
     
  8. Nov 15, 2012 at 11:46 AM
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    Also that's looks like the old top plates TC provided with the older version of the kit. IIRC for 4x4 trucks you're supposed to cut the coil bucket and flip the top plate upside down.
    Of course this weakens the bucket, so I wouldn't do it unless you do the secondary shock hoop.
    For the new kits, you're supposed to get a special top plate from King if you want to run King coilovers.
     
  9. Nov 15, 2012 at 11:46 AM
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    Looks like might have too long of spring or a wrong lower shock piece. Snap some pics showing from the front.

    Actually I think Jberry is right with the top plate
     
  10. Nov 15, 2012 at 11:47 AM
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    Also what # springs
     
  11. Nov 15, 2012 at 11:48 AM
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    I think this is the winner, 2nd gen 4wd should be flipped because of the longer rod at the bottom to clear the axles
     
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    It says you are 4x4. In the first picture showing the coil bucket it is set up like 2wd. The 4wd have to cut the coil bucket and flip the coil over mount. The 4wd use a longer rod end to clear the axle. Here is a picture of an fj but same concept.

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    EDIT: Damn I am slow.
     
  13. Nov 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM
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    Special top plate if you wanna run kings:

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    I have not taken it in for alignment or bled the brakes yet.

    I bought this kit from a member here (RAD) and the shocks came from his friend, I had Downsouth Motor sports change the rod end for a 4x4.

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    Looks like you have the correct bottom plate and rod end for 4x4.
    You need to flip the top plate and cut the bucket.

    Also, 600 lb spring rate for a 4x4 second gen miiiiiiight be a little light.


    EDIT:
    Ohhh...that's an 18" coil. I'm not the second gen expert, but pretty sure you need to pull that fucker out too and put in a 16" coil in.
     
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    Man I love this site! You guys know your ish. Well looks like I need to cut the coil bucket or order king top plates..

    Why is 600 light for 4x4?

    What would you recommend for the spring weight and why??

    Slowly still learning.
     
  18. Nov 15, 2012 at 12:11 PM
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    TC recommends a 600lb spring on 4x4 and I am running 500lb on 2wd. All in the valving. Also I am running 18" coils with no issue.


    EDIT: Atleast thats what I was told by TC when I bought my kit.
     
  19. Nov 15, 2012 at 12:20 PM
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    He's got a second gen DC and 4x4.
    If it were my truck, I'd run 650, but it depends entirely on what the truck is used for and how he drives it.
     
  20. Nov 15, 2012 at 12:28 PM
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    Can anyone also confirm that I need a 16" instead of the 18"

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    For sale stock rod ends, 600 Springs and TC Top plates. Lol
     

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