Don't do what I did . . .

Hesitant to slam another Tacoma owner ? you did that already by creating a thread about a Tacoma owner.

If you truly got scammed, it`s pretty much a no brainer, the only way that this thread will be useful to the rest of the TW members is if you give the username.

Are you in fear for your life if you give the name ?

 

wait why? the guy hasnt done anything bad or shady. shipping to a US address for a Canadian thats on the boarder is SOP. the only thing you have something on is the extra fee you didnt know about, i would ask the buyer to kick down some more money for that fee.

also you are harming yourself by not having a verified paypal as it takes longer for everything. as a almost 20 year paypal user i think i have had maybe 2 issues lol. i get my money instant and can either spend it instant or have it go into my bank in 3 days

 

Lol if I was a buyer I'd laugh if someone asked me to pay an extra fee after the fact when the item was already shipped. If seller had an issue with it he should of just refunded the money and either asked seller to cover the fee or sell it someone else. What I do think is dumb is that the processing fee pops up on the seller side. I don't get why a seller should be dinged for someone else using a specific card or whatever.

 

Names. We want names

 

Yep, this is a common practice on eBay by Canadian buyers. I sold a laptop to someone, but as always, I checked the address on google maps then asked the buyer about it. The transaction went smoothly.

If it's been a week and no communication from the buyer, and no money, out the fucker.

 

Seriously OP this could of happened with an American too. Yes, the 1% is probably some silly thing on Paypals end but the fast one your customer pulled could of happened with anyone on here who isn't an honest customer.

If you don't want to do business over 1%...



Oh, and I'm pretty sure what happened up here. Canada is about 10 years ahead of the USA on bank card technology. Chip and pin, pay pass, CC integration... yeah Canada has had all of those things for years. Most major banks in Canada can issue their customers a debit card that can use the Visa transaction process. In other words, in Canada you can actually buy from the Internet with your debit card while having the protection and purchasing ease of the Visa brand at no charge. The funds are pulled from your account, routed through Visa, converted to USD by Paypal, and then sent on to the seller if the sale is being made over the border. I've done it many times and no one has ever complained back to me that it put them bankrupt or cause them to shit their pants on TW.

Given that your transaction didn't go through I'm guessing that Visa and the bank, yes they work together in this case, flagged the purchase because it's fishy and in USD. I'm guessing your customer might not even know this has happened since quite often the banks won't even call if it's under $250. Maybe your customer just hasn't been around TW since the purchase?

On a darker note it's also possible that the card number was stolen and Visa caught this in the same way as above but with someone who does know and a purchaser that was using a Visa debit card without someone elses knowledge.

 

Seller paying processing fees is normal. Every single business you swipe your debit card or credit card at pays a fee to the credit card company for YOUR convenience of not having to carry cash, write a check, or to borrow money on credit.

 

Shipping to the border doesn't save taxes, well unless you are smuggling your item back to Canada, but it does save the brokerage and shipping fees. Usually I save about 20-30% by shipping to the border.

 

Like I said, selling in this fashion doesn't bother me. It's a normal business practice, apparently.

What bothers me is that the seller has not been paid and it sounds like the buyer has gone dark. That is uncool.

It also bothers me the seller is not getting his case resolved with paypal. That is also uncool.

 

All true. However these are also things that could happen with an American. Tons of people here get stuff shipped to commercial addresses. You could pull off this same trick in americuh without much effort.

 

Wrong

Unless you are bringing a 300 dollar item across, you don't get pulled aside most of the time. It is called the waive through limit with oral declaration. Recently the Nexus program switched to this as nexus holders got nailed for tax on a 2 dollar pen.

 

Would you like to see my CBSA receipts lol. I've paid every time except for one time I went through with stuff under $300. You are wrong good sir.

 

Take it up with the OP. I like Canada. You fuckers are kinda like Texans but with moose.

 

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/ifcrc-rpcrc-eng.html

Personal exemption amounts
The length of your absence from Canada determines the amount of goods you can bring back, without paying any duties.

Traveller personal exemption limits effective June 1, 2012
Less than 24 hours Personal exemptions do not apply to same-day cross-border shoppers.
24 hours or more Up to CAN$200 – Alcohol and tobacco cannot be claimed. Goods must be in your possession at time of entry to Canada. If the value of the goods you have purchased abroad exceeds $200 after a 24 hour absence, duty and taxes are applicable on the entire amount of the imported goods.
48 hours or more Up to CAN$800 – May include alcohol and tobacco products, within the prescribed limits set by provincial or territorial authorities. Goods must be in your possession at time of entry to Canada. Travellers absent for periods of 48 hours or more will have the applicable exemption level credited against the total value of goods.
7 days or more Up to CAN$800 – May include alcohol and tobacco products, within the prescribed limits set by provincial or territorial authorities. For the seven-day exemption, goods may be in your possession at time of entry to Canada but are also permitted to follow entry to Canada (such as via courier, mail or delivery agency), except alcohol and tobacco products, which must be in your possession. All the goods will qualify for duty- and tax-free entry if they are declared at the initial return to Canada.

So if you are like me and just go accross to pickup, IE stay less than 24 hours, you own the full duty on an item. If that item was made in the USA or Mexico you owe no duty because NAFTA but you still owe the GST or PST.

Trust me, I do this ALOT.

Here is the cost estimator as well if you need to run some numbers yourself.

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/dte-acl/est-cal-eng.html

 

Meh, Canadians are only 1/10th of the OPs potential customers. If he doesn't need us then he doesn't need us. It's his call. However if he thinks just selling domestically the exact same way he set this up will save his ass then he's going to have a terrible time again. The only question is when.

 

Definitely. It is certainly apparent there are scumbags all over the planet, including the USA. I have managed to avoid bad transactions on electronics, motorcycle, automobile, and ATV transactions.

 

I'll play devil's advocate for a bit to possibly avoid a tacoma world Salem witch trial.

Most consumers don't understand how credit card fees work and how much a business person or vendor pays into it (I don't understand it). So from his/her standpoint, they were ordering a product to a US address to avoid paying a Canadian import tax. He paid with his credit card and assumed the transaction went through like hundreds of previous transactions. Unknowing that you were going to get hit by an international transaction fee and that his bank would take a longtime to approve the funds.

Informing you that he lives in Canada when the package is going to a US address probably never occurred to the individual because they don't understand the complex workings of credit card fees businesses endure.

 

My feeling has always been that if a vendor isn't okay with the fees that they are being charged then it is their fault for accepting that form of payment. If they aren't willing to take the hit from the fees then stop complaining and do something about it.

BTW I'm being serious when I say out of the hundreds of Paypal transactions I've done not once has a seller complained to me that I was a Canadian. A few times they have mentioned in their description that they only accept verified accounts though. Now I know why.

 

I am not wrong at all. You must be going through the wrong border crossing then.
No tax under 100 bucks guarenteed out at Pacific northwest crossings...
You bringing in flagged items like ammo?