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Door sill paint quality

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by jeezumcrow, Jun 6, 2023.

  1. Jun 7, 2023 at 9:51 AM
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    hiPSI

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    Lol $45K is actually below average of all new vehicles combined.
    That's like me saying my $3 gas station sushi should taste like the $25 master chef sushi...
     
  2. Jun 7, 2023 at 9:56 AM
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    I don't think that a crease in the sheet metal from the stamping process that shows through the paint can actually be considered a "flaw".
     
  3. Jun 7, 2023 at 7:02 PM
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    Have you seen the paint on new Mercedes and Porsche? More orange peel than a citrus grove.
     
  4. Jun 8, 2023 at 6:37 AM
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    I’m a car guy and I love my Tacoma but I’ll be the first to admit that it’s paint suuuuucks. It’s a truck though. The good thing is, the rest of the truck is solid but the paint scratches if you look at it wrong.
     
  5. Jun 8, 2023 at 8:28 AM
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    everyone's paint sucks with waterborne refinish products, that were mandated down our throats. where have you guys been? once they "got rid of" solvent based finishes, our quality, paint match, and longevity, has gone waaaay downhill. Ski
     
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  6. Jun 8, 2023 at 8:42 AM
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    I used to work at one of the big auto manufacturers. Was there for 12 years, just left 7 months ago. Primarily in the paint department, but due to my role I witnessed the entire process start to finish and spent ample time in the other shops. From the stamping department, weld, paint and the general assembly shops. This is likely a subtle stamping line from the stamping dies. You have to understand the rigidity they have to engineer into these door sills and door openings. Just like bridges and trusses. In the automotive world your toeing a fine line cause it still needs to be light enough to get decent fuel mileage and check other boxes elsewhere, but still build in strength where you can. In this circumstance, that minor line probably provided much needed strength into that section.

    Also, as far as claiming it to be a paint process defect. 1- During the paint process, if you had a repair in that area, you wouldnt tape that off right there. You would tape off where that weatherstrip is. Therefore, never having a tape line at all cause the tape would be on the backside of where the weatherstrip connects and or the weatherstrip hiding it. 2- If it were a tape line, A- You would be able to physically feel it. Like when you go to peel a bandaid off. There'd be no mistaking it was there... B- It wouldnt be such a perfect line. C- There would be an obvious difference with the two areas. Metallics are extremely hard to match and get uniform. A tape line would keep you from feathering it out and trying to blend the repaired area, so youd have a obvious difference in the two sides. (the factory side and the assumed repair side) In your pic, the paint looks identical besides that small line running through there. Also, lastly, if it were repaired or a factory paint defect, theres no way you have a similar line in every door opening in the truck. So all signs point to a purposeful stamping line to me.
     
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  7. Jun 8, 2023 at 9:53 AM
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    The paint on all the tacomas blows donkey.
     
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    Come on, fingernail? what are you, a werewolf? A little exaggeration here...
     
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    I've been lucky so far on my '23. No paint issues yet. Paint quality is the primary reason I got rid of my '18 F150. The paint was peeling off to bare metal. Luckily it was aluminum so I didn't have to worry about it rusting.
     
  11. Jun 8, 2023 at 12:40 PM
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    Your going to do what? Full repaint? Better save your penny's. Good quality repaint, is going to cost you well over 10K+ or you will have nothing better then you already have
     
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    No money, all went to truck...
    have you taken it back to dealer?
     
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    I would just get the door sill liners because you’re going to scratch the shit out of the paint.
     
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    Agree on sill liner!

    Great to hear from factory experience.
     
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    Yeah, that’s completely nuts
     
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    If someone applied tape, painted it, then removed the tape: you'd know it. It would be obvious. And none of the doors sills would match each other in either "line" or color. They would be a complete, mismatched mess. ...and there wouldn't be any "dip" in the surface left behind that you could feel. (IMO)

    My recommendation: Since you can only see it with the doors open: don't open the doors unless it's dark out.
    :thumbsup:
     
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    Side question: Will these sill plates you have on your truck work on a 2014 DC? I'm asking because I note they wrap down over the edge of the sill. I have these on my truck but they are the port installed ones and they don't wrap over the edge. I don't step on the sill when I get in/out, but the previous owner must have had to, so the paint has worn off of the edge in the middle 3rd of the sill. Thanks in advance!
     
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    I can see the faintest evidence of these lines on my brand new truck, but I’ve got the sill covers. Where the “lines” show, it looks to be the body panel that is the source, not the paint. I can only make out the slightest evidence on two of my doors. Had I not seen this thread, I doubt I would have ever noticed this, and I’m a little OCD about detail. Zero chance this is due to taping off areas and painting (on my truck).
     
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  19. Jun 8, 2023 at 4:08 PM
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    Ridiculous thing to complain about.
     
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  20. Jun 8, 2023 at 6:02 PM
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    They should work since it just a sticker
     
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