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Driving without rear driveshaft

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by 96_taco, Feb 1, 2016.

  1. Feb 2, 2016 at 7:49 AM
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    96_taco

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    Drove to school today without any problems so hopefully I'll be good till my shaft gets done
     
  2. Feb 2, 2016 at 2:54 PM
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    You'll be fine. After going through 5 rear driveshafts on my old Jeep I finally said eff it and drove it for the next year and a half in front wheel drive. This was back in the high-school/college days. Starving student ain't got time for that. Bit of torque steer was the only noticeable difference.
     
  3. Feb 2, 2016 at 3:02 PM
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    Is the torque steer any worse than a FWD car?
     
  4. Feb 2, 2016 at 3:40 PM
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    Torque steer feels a lot worse than any car I've driven, probably cause of the 33's if I had to guess
     
  5. Feb 2, 2016 at 3:41 PM
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    image.jpg Boom new one piece shaft, $183
     
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  6. Feb 2, 2016 at 4:13 PM
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    Exactly:

    Done this many times. Might have a truck on the lift and remove the driveshaft to ( maybe get a light-weight one made) let the truck down and put it in 4x4 and drive it outside.

    But CAUTION: This only works, if the yoke at the transfer case output is attached to the output shaft of the transfer, usually with a big, torqued, nut. His 1st gen truck has the bolt on yoke, he is good.
    If there is a slip yoke at the rear of the transfer, (NO NUT), when you remove the driveshaft, and the slip yoke pulls out of the transfer, your transfer fluid will be able to run out. Only a little will come out, because that is the high point; but if you drive it, the fluid will run out; because the yoke is not against the transfer rear seal.

    It all matters how the yoke is designed; trucks come both ways. OK


    As for the binding: There will be No binding if the front differential, is not a fully lockable one, as the TRD OFF Road rear differential with the Lock feature. And his 1st gen did not come with a fully lockable front differential.

    Anyway there would be no binding in the transfer because the rear driveshaft is removed. Once the driveshaft is removed, there can be no binding in the transfer.

    oldracer
     
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  7. Feb 2, 2016 at 4:24 PM
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    Yes. Because the truck wasn't intended to be driven in FWD, Toyota made no attempt to minimize torque steer through suspension geometry (reducing scrub radius), or sizing the CV shafts so they flex the same amount.
     
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  8. Feb 2, 2016 at 5:00 PM
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    Gotcha. Makes sense.
     
  9. Feb 2, 2016 at 7:22 PM
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    Drove the 110 miles round trip to get my shaft today, got home and it's only got about 1/4" until it's bottomed out so its gonna stay out till this weekend when I swap in the 5 speed and free up 2 1/2 inches. Also, truck vibrates a little at 70 probably from an unbalanced front shift? Or maybe transfer case slack
     
  10. Feb 2, 2016 at 8:55 PM
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    In an absolute dire situation you could do it (I.E. you lose a u-joint on the trail and need to get home or to the nearest repair shop) but actually just driving it for any length of time is not a good idea.
     
  11. Feb 3, 2016 at 4:08 AM
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    Why?
     
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  12. Feb 3, 2016 at 8:52 AM
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    Seems fine to me
     
  13. Feb 3, 2016 at 9:03 AM
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    I realize my previous statement of being "locked" was wrong (omg someone admitted? :eek:), had a brain fart about xfer/diff

    but driving with only the front at 70mph is :der:
     
  14. Feb 3, 2016 at 9:06 AM
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    Try this experiment - put your truck in 4WD and attempt at turning into a parking spot. By the time you make it into the spot, your new driveshaft will be ready for pick up!
     
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  15. Feb 3, 2016 at 9:08 AM
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    Ive had to drive a Toyota like this after my driveline blew up...I drove it a couple miles to the gas station and that was the end of my front wheel drive toyota experience...
     
  16. Feb 3, 2016 at 9:28 AM
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    That's not the situation we are talking about here.

    The reason you get binding in that situation is because the one front and one rear wheel have to turn at the same speed. Since he has his rear driveshaft removed, this is no longer an issue.
     
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  17. Feb 3, 2016 at 11:33 AM
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    Unbalanced front dshaft. Since they're not intended to be used all the time at all speeds like a rear shaft is most companies don't balance them.
     
  18. Feb 3, 2016 at 11:38 AM
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    You know, from the amount of time I've owned jeeps you would think I would remember about the rear slip yoke :laugh: One of the I'm sure cost saving measures that they used in building the tcase that can cause a lot of problems in the right situation. I've never needed to try it but supposedly a 20oz coke bottle is about the right size to make a handy plug as a trail fix.
     
  19. Feb 3, 2016 at 5:13 PM
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    Ok and it turns fine no binding what so ever, no locker is the front diff nor posi, as has been said the binding in 4wd comes from one rear wheel and one front wheel turning different speeds.
     
  20. Feb 3, 2016 at 5:15 PM
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    Hahahahaha yeah, I'm not too careful with my truck. Kinda reckless actually, rev limiter 4wd on 3 cylinders coming out of a mud hole kinda reckless.... Then drive 20 miles home misfiring like crazy. Gotta hand it to the old truck tho, still runs great and gets 18 mpg now
     
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