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Dynamat vs Second Skin

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by LonghornTaco, Nov 8, 2008.

  1. Nov 8, 2008 at 5:05 PM
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    LonghornTaco

    LonghornTaco [OP] Can you pass the bailout please?

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    Thinking of another mod... Putting down sound dampening material in the cab of my truck - floor, back wall, doors, roof.

    I read this post about the pros and cons of the different types of materials and why (http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/) but I was wondering if anyone had done the entire cab and whether or not it was worth it? And how many sq ft did you use?

    And I can see that Second Skin and Dynamat are probably the front runners for quality, but secondskinaudio.com doesn't come up. Are they still around?

    I can get 72 sq ft of Dynamax Xtreme for about $260 on ebay, but was curious about second skin...
     
  2. Nov 8, 2008 at 6:22 PM
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    atsaubrey

    atsaubrey Dealer/Sales Rep for Sundown Audio.

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    I run Second Skin and love it. Both products are great but I think SS is a better value and has a thicker foil backing. As for doing the entire truck, yes do the works but make the floor the last thing to do. The floor is better left to a sound absorbing pad rather than a dampener, SS make that as well but the name escapes me at the moment. I recommend in this order for deadening: doors, door panels, backwall, roof for best results. Again the floor is the last thing that should be done IF you use deadener only.
     
  3. Nov 8, 2008 at 6:28 PM
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    LonghornTaco

    LonghornTaco [OP] Can you pass the bailout please?

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    Thanks! That is the same order that I gathered from reading a bunch of posts...

    When did you do yours? Did you do the entire cab? Do it yourself? Any pics of the install?

    Any idea if second skin is still around? Their website is down...
     
  4. Nov 8, 2008 at 6:45 PM
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    LonghornTaco

    LonghornTaco [OP] Can you pass the bailout please?

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    And what kind of "sound absorbing foam"? Is it like the ensolite stuff from RAAMAudio?
     
  5. Nov 9, 2008 at 6:36 PM
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    I have done the entire cab but only a reg cab. I used Raamat for deadening but I know that SS makes great stuff I would always trust them. They are still alive and well their site must have just been down. As far as the mat goes you can use ensolite or SS's version is overkill and if you want the ultimate sound insulation go with SS's luxury line pro. It is about a half inch thick with foam and a vinyl constraining layer. Great stuff.
     
  6. Nov 9, 2008 at 6:52 PM
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    where exactly do you put it in a reg cab?
     
  7. Nov 9, 2008 at 6:56 PM
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    Put what? Deadener or Luxury Liner pro
     
  8. Nov 9, 2008 at 6:56 PM
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    beastlytaco This is TW. One never knows what is a joke anymore

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    sound deadener
     
  9. Nov 9, 2008 at 7:35 PM
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    I have done the back wall, floor, roof, and side walls behind the doors. I will do the doors soon but I have to order more deadener. I have used a roll and a half or about 100 sq feet. I am going all out some spots 5 layers. Everywhere there is at least 2 layers. I am thinking of doing audio competitions so I want it to be DEAD!!. Oh yeah I am doing the body panels such as a pillars, kicks, plasitc panels on side walls and the rib along the back wall to keep the panels from rattleling.
     
  10. Nov 9, 2008 at 8:19 PM
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    LonghornTaco [OP] Can you pass the bailout please?

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    I hope their site comes back up so I can check them out. I've heard good things about Second Skin and they are cheaper than Dynamat.
     
  11. Nov 10, 2008 at 6:20 AM
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    It is a large undertaking it is not a fast process. Applying the deadener is easy the time consuming part is taking off the body panels and finding another car to drive while all the seats are out or just keep putting the seats in and out. I have a bench so I have to take it in an out but if you have a double cab you can just put back in one seat to drive. I have just been driving my brother's old toyota truck
     
  12. Nov 10, 2008 at 6:49 AM
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    LonghornTaco [OP] Can you pass the bailout please?

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    How long did it take you (considering that you did 5 layers...:eek:)?

    I was planning to do it in stages:
    Do the doors, drive to work.
    Do the back wall, drive to work.
    Do the roof, drive to work.
    Do the floor (over the weekend), drive to work...
     
  13. Nov 11, 2008 at 9:37 AM
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    It took be about 3 days of working a few hours each night to do the back wall and back floor section and 3 hours to do the front floor but this mutiple layers. I only have 5 layers in one spot and 3 and in many but at least 2 everywhere. Some areas especially around the transmission area that are really dead. I did my roof with two layers and luxury liner pro in 3 hours or so
     
  14. Nov 11, 2008 at 1:52 PM
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    how many rolls of RAAMmat did you order to get that many layers?
     
  15. Nov 11, 2008 at 2:21 PM
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    I used FrostKing. $15 for 15sqft. Deadened the road noise, reduced vibrations, increased stereo volume and the cab gets warm QUICK!
     
  16. Nov 11, 2008 at 5:47 PM
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    I'm not totally done yet, but it has taken me 1.5 rolls of Raammat I got ensolite also but haven't used any because I decided to go with Second Skin Luxury liner pro. Really thick stuff does an awesome job. I must plug Raammat it is great. I didn't get cut at all from the foil and it is extremely flexible and easy to work with. I'm not sure if there are any threads on here about how to deaden but I will be more than happy to make one or answer any questions.
     
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