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Eco Drive for the Tacoma? Why doesn't Toyota have this feature?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas' started by TnShooter, Aug 15, 2014.

  1. Aug 16, 2014 at 7:05 PM
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    DoorDing

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    Higher strength steel, aluminum, and composites all cost more than the regular steel commonly in use. Those materials are starting to show up in lower cost production vehicles, though. I think A pillar thickness has reached a maximum due to visibility concerns, so if crash standards are raised further, more advanced materials will probably be needed. I know high strength steel is already used for that area in some designs.
     
  2. Aug 16, 2014 at 7:11 PM
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    if there weren't 18 wheelers, dumptrucks, etc. on the road then things wouldn't have to be built so heavy. if every vehicle was a smart car everything would be easy then. :laugh:
     
  3. Aug 16, 2014 at 7:16 PM
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    could cylinder deactivation work on a v6?

    you would drop two, making v4, or drop four, making v2 right? I don't see either being beneficial
     
  4. Aug 16, 2014 at 7:18 PM
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    As much as my truck shifts on the highway, I doubt it'd help much there. Maybe it'd be beneficial cruising around town. :notsure:

    More gears for the AT may be more useful at keeping the engine in the optimum rpm band for the best fuel economy.
     
  5. Aug 16, 2014 at 7:26 PM
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    Can you turn the feature off. I would hate to be in a situation like offroading or crawling or something were you going slow and having to stop alot and the truck shuts off every time.
     
  6. Aug 16, 2014 at 7:30 PM
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    The new corolla does not have cyl deactivation they have what they call valve matic which adjust how far the valve opens but still running on all four
     
  7. Aug 16, 2014 at 7:34 PM
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    I haven't heard of an offroad vehicle with it. It makes perfect sense with a Prius, even without a way to defeat it.
    Sounds like another version of variable valve timing. Nothing really new there, but it does make a difference.
     
  8. Aug 16, 2014 at 7:47 PM
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    i have this in my civic...only really does anything when im on the highway going 65 or less.

    hills and city driving kill it, hopefully toyota does something better than honda...
     
  9. Aug 16, 2014 at 7:48 PM
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    What, VTEC?
     
  10. Aug 16, 2014 at 7:53 PM
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    econ, aka eco mode
     
  11. Aug 16, 2014 at 7:57 PM
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  12. Aug 16, 2014 at 8:08 PM
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    when it works, it's awesome, when it doesnt, it....eh.

    works is in certain situations only and I have read the vsc kinda kills it, but I havent read into that topic too much.

    long story short w/eco mode it's either 14mpg city or 40mpg city. w/o it on I get 23ish city and around 35 highway.

    it does work, just not w/hills or stop go.
     
  13. Aug 16, 2014 at 8:29 PM
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    From that wikipedia link, it sounded like ECO Assist was just a passive gauge, but I see that the ECON button does interact with the drivetrain.

    The Prius has different drive modes that adjust regenerative braking and throttle tip in. Although full power is always available through the accelerator pedal, driving the car in Power mode is noticeably different than Eco.
     
  14. Aug 16, 2014 at 8:59 PM
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    I hear ya... I traded in a perfectly good 2000 Taco Prerunner V6 / TRD Off-Road for my '14 Taco TRD Sport DC LB. The magical performance boost from the old 3.4L engine was actually its power-to-weight ratio. I think the old Tundra 4.7L V8 would be a better match for the current Tacoma, IMHO. That would be the ultimate ECO Drive since you don't need to drive with a lead foot, due to the vehicle's heft.

    Having owned a few turbo diesels, my primary reason has not been fuel economy but rather performance on the highway while fully loaded. At least where I'm at regular gas and diesel are near the same price, so it helps justify things. Also, the ability to climb steep mountain roads at 1500-2000 RPM is handy.
     
  15. Aug 16, 2014 at 9:02 PM
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    Not even. It's been shown to pick up 1-2 mpg more.
     
  16. Aug 16, 2014 at 9:05 PM
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    If you want decent gas mileage, get a 4cyl tacoma. I easily get 22mpg driving like a dick around town. Can't imagine what I'd get on long trips on the highway. If you want "good power for the mtns" or some shitty reason to want the v6, quit yer bitchin' about the mileage then lol


    Lol rant over
     
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    You mean, something like the Blue Motion stuff that VW has used in Europe? IMHO, it is a great feature for a McDonalds drive thru but would is annoying for driving heavy traffic. I used to live in Europe and was never a fan of that stuff. Anyway, most cars there already get over 40 miles to the gallon so the technology is overkill.
     
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    I'll be happy when Toyota brings their diesel / electric hybrid tech from the Hino to the Tacoma in 2017
     
  19. Aug 16, 2014 at 9:09 PM
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    I believe the 'eco mode' on my wife's 2014 RAV4 does is decrease throttle response and lower shift points, with the 'sport mode' doing the opposite.

    I know I've touched on this topic a million times, but Toyota needs to incorporate some modern technologies into their engines. They are falling way behind the curve in terms of performance and efficiency at this point and that is going to show up in their future sales numbers.
     
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    I got issued a 2014 chevy 1500 with a V-6 for work that has it. It is a gutless turd with 4cyl firing. and just a turd with all 6 firing. It's rated at 24 mpg highway but I have been getting closer to 20 mpg real world. I had a Trailblazer for a while (V-8) that had it and the new one is much more seamless transition wise, but still noticeable.
     
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