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Eibach and 5100 pics.

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by FrustrationFabTaco, Jul 23, 2012.

  1. Jul 23, 2012 at 2:25 PM
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    I've been looking for pics of a second gen access cab with 5100's and eibachs up front also without a tsb or aal. I just got new tires a few months ago and cant really afford to replace them with bigger ones for make an aal not look goofy with small tires. if anyone has stock rear suspension with 5100's set at 0 with eibachs please leave some pics. on a side note i have 265/70/16 tires. thanks
     
  2. Jul 23, 2012 at 2:34 PM
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    Jack the front end of your truck up roughly 1.6" and take some pics
     
  3. Jul 23, 2012 at 5:29 PM
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    that crossed my mind, ill probably do that tomorrow for a rough figure but i would like to see a picture of a truck that actually has that setup due to conflicting measurements from people.
     
  4. Jul 23, 2012 at 6:02 PM
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    I'm still running Eibachs and an AAL with stock sized tires. Doesn't look bad in my opinion. Here are some pics:
    http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-builds/120964-puggas-superwhite-3.html#post5418187

    If you scroll up that page a little bit, you can see the same setup with 265/70R17 tires (the stock size tires are Bridgestone Dueler blackwalls, if you see Cooper AT3's, those are the 265/70R17)
     
  5. Jul 23, 2012 at 6:22 PM
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    exactly what i was hoping to see. thanks!
     
  6. Jul 27, 2012 at 2:21 PM
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    What would happen if I set an 5100 to 1.75" with an eibach spring?
     
  7. Jul 27, 2012 at 2:27 PM
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    Not a good idea. With that much preload you'll be well over 3" of lift so there's a whole bunch of potential issues you could run into including: increased wear on the CV joints and boots, coil binding, UCA's hitting the coils and a very rough ride.

    Why would you want to do that, are you trying to get more lift?
     
  8. Jul 27, 2012 at 3:52 PM
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    yes on my DCSB 4x4 i just wanna bring it up to a full 3" and with the added weightof the DC.... It was just a thought. Getting the eibach's soon though. So the .85" setting on the 5100's would in theory give me 3"?
     
  9. Jul 27, 2012 at 4:13 PM
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    I have a DCLB and Billies with OME 885's and I set the billies on .85 but didnt get 3", I set them up one more notch and got my 3" and the CV's look just fine. I think the Eibachs should be close to what the OME 885's are since you set the billies to the same height for 3" of lift. A smaller truck would probably not have to preload past .85
     
  10. Jul 27, 2012 at 4:22 PM
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    Eibach coils on 5100's set at .85 will get you to around 2.5" of lift. To get to the full 3" of lift, Toytec makes a kit for it that puts a thicker top plate spacer on top of the 5100/Eibach combo. Here's the 3" kit that Toytec sells:

    http://toyteclifts.com/index.php?pa...tegory_id=115&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=72
     
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    You've got 885's on 5100's set to 1.75?!?! Unless the 885's were horribly worn out, that would get you a lot more lift than you'd want unless you have a drop bracket.

    Either way, the Eibachs are a stronger coil than the OME coils and shouldn't be preloaded that much (either should those 885's but that's your problem).
     
  12. Jul 27, 2012 at 4:28 PM
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    Ok so we would't be dangerously preloading the eibach coil. The build on this thread
    http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-builds/85962-johnsons-silver-bullet.html
    is a prerunner, so I'm thinking the extra weight of the front axle diff and T case might be an issue to get the full 3"
     
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    I got them brand new, and wheel the Taco every weekend, wheeled MOAB with them, I dont have a drop bracket and I am sitting level with my All Pro standard leafs, and my CV's are just fine, fins aent even touching. Its weird because so many people say ewhat you said and have been wrong. I dunno if its because I have a DCLB V6 or what but I dont have moe than 3" of lift, thats for sure.
     
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    Sorry for the speeling errors, stupid sticky keys
     
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    You can safely set the 5100's to .85 with the Eibachs, there's no harm there at all. The top plates don't add preload, they set on top of the top plates.

    In that build thread, he would have gotten around 2.5" from the 5100's and Eibachs and then added a 1/2" spacer on the driver's side and 1/4" spacer on the passenger side for some additional lift and to counteract the infamous 'Taco Lean'. I'd be willing to bet he was just shy of the 3" mark with that setup (maybe not because he has a prerunner). The Toytech kit has thicker top plates to get you to 3" of lift, then you'd add the 1/4" spacer on the driver's side to account for the Taco Lean.

    That's nuts... Lots of people got 2.5" of lift, even on DCLB with 5100's at 0. I've heard of some people kicking the 5100's up to .85 as the 885's settle but you're the first I've heard running them at 1.75.
     
  16. Jul 27, 2012 at 5:53 PM
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    I think it's time to invest in a good wal mounted spring compressor so I can play around with the settings when my eibach's come....... Lol I wish I could afford one!
     
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    Might as well invest in an alignment rack also while your at it.
     
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