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Electric Tacoma coming

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by Sand Dog, Apr 21, 2021.

  1. May 4, 2021 at 8:19 PM
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    My, my – there are conspiracy theories for everything here, aren’t there?! :der:

    Why the need for needlessly defensive arguments against a non-existent threat from a new and evolving technology? Really -is it that scary? :drevil::annoyed:

    I think I understand the news on the TV a bit better by reading some of the reactions on this thread! :rofl:


    Yes – if Mars attacks and you are low on charge, you will be SOL… But you know what??, gas also runs out when there’s a hurricanes and everyone decides to bail… Or simply can’t pump cause the power is out!

    Would I buy a tesla if I lived in Nunavut? Well, likely not… but for the needs of 99.5% of all vehicle drivers, even current EV performance would fit nicely – assuming a bit of planning skill! For most, it is already a better option than what is in the average person’s garage (or curb). AND the tech is, and WILL continue to improve significantly and fast…

    “I do 1,000 mile trips only stopping for 10 minute fuel-up when on fumes and an EV would force me to maybe stop and see something..." THIS sounds like a horrible way to travel – or do anything. I’d rather stop for a good meal and explore a bit. - Oh, what a perfect opportunity for a charge! (In somewhat interesting locales anyway - which may be well scarce in some areas :ballchain:)

    Reminds me of the typical tourist’s European vacation: “Live the ultimate European Experience: 13 countries in 7 days - crap hotels and all meals served in your choice of local truck stop McDonalds’! - No need to interact with any locals, or experience any of what you pretend to be there for! – We’ll take you to the BEST places (that allow bus-loads of ill-tempered tourists)!”.

    But the evidence is there. – People pay money to subject themselves to this! (and Cruises!) - And A/Ts :boink: (sorry - could not help it!).

    Nervous nellies think they’ll be forced to go Electric (where did that come from?? – did I miss something?) I’ll say that if someone wants to force me to own a Model S or Taycan by buying it for me… we’ll I guess I’ll surrender all my independent will and humanity - and I’ll take it… :thumbsup: - BUT I believe that to be highly unlikely. (But if there is a list somewhere, tell me where I can sign-up!)

    It is not that people are not patient to let the tech evolve; it seems more likely that they are so utterly lacking in vision and actual insight, that they think that what they see now is IT – and IT is as good as anything will ever get… because, then, the good old days are behind us anyway, right?

    Oh the grid… (Sigh…) Please realize that the electrification effort has had several stages – It id not all suddenly appear by being created into existence... AND know that we have already added massive capacity in the past similar to the needs necessary to accommodate EV adoption.

    Also realize that most vehicles sit for 90+% of the time. This energy storage capacity is already being used as an asset as the aggregated storage capacity is already making $$$ (in some areas) simply by using this predictable available capacity. (search "virtual power plant"). Batteries sitting on the grid, HELP the grid – they are not only power suckers. – Guess what – EV owners are making $$$ by participating in offering this flexibility in capacity. (Calm down - No they are not being FORCED to do so, they get compensated to do so - at their whim & discretion at any particular time...).

    Get out a bit… Drive an EV. They are badass!

    Yep - there is a lot more work to be done – meaning it will be much better. It is a pretty interesting challenge!
     
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  2. May 4, 2021 at 10:44 PM
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    And EV will drastically change the environmental impact of transportation of people and goods. Progress doesn’t always have to happen on the same front, plus speed of transportation is limited by human drivers, not vehicles. A self driving EV can probably travel at 150mph on a highway safer than a texting teen doing 30mph.
     
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  3. May 4, 2021 at 11:11 PM
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    This guy says so right here. Theres so much misinformation now a days, people read shit, SHIT, on the interdweeb and spout it out like it's the only absolute truth, todays people suck.
     
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  4. May 5, 2021 at 4:29 AM
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    All my opinions in one post..lol. Thanks. But the haters that never even drove an EV or are too scared will still crap on it. Opinions are like Aholes, everyone has one. Well I dunno about Caitlyn Jenner but I think she does.
     
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  5. May 5, 2021 at 8:46 AM
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  6. May 5, 2021 at 10:53 AM
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    I'd really like an EV DeLorean. People have done LS1 swaps, but it's really not a burple or brap kinda ride.
     
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  7. May 5, 2021 at 10:54 AM
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    Needs that turbine whine
     
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  8. May 5, 2021 at 12:10 PM
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    RCBS How long you willing to tolerate this crap??

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    What ever happened to Hydrogen? Water in, water out.
     
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    If you think the infrastructure for an EV is poor, Hydrogen will blow your socks off. Even Toyota has bailed on this idea.
     
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  10. May 5, 2021 at 12:18 PM
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    RCBS How long you willing to tolerate this crap??

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    But why? Seemed to be the most 'green' approach. My guess is that it's harder to manipulate the usage and creation of hydrogen.

    Hydrogen is alive in Japan. Honda and Toyota produce vehicles that utilize hydrogen for Japan.
     
  11. May 5, 2021 at 12:45 PM
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    Until all the charge stations are in use all the time as more people have electric cars.
     
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    I don't know if I'd call 300 hydrogen stations and 3,500 vehicles "alive", but I get your point. Hydrogen seems like a thing that should have been more popular, but got skipped over for various reasons.
     
  13. May 5, 2021 at 12:49 PM
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    Building more charging stations seems logical too me. Are we not allowed?
     
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    Can you imagine the cost a garage will charge too find a short/problem in an electric care.Repair places cringe at any electric problems.
    California just wrote about not having enough charging stations causing folks to go back too gas engines.
     
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    Yes, 20% of them switched back to gas. There could be any number of reasons for it.

    That same article also said that 80% of people stuck with an EV though...
     
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    https://www.autoweek.com/news/green-cars/a36329317/ev-owners-switch-back-to-gas/

    Article in question for those curious.

    Some pertinent bits,

    "In a study published in the journal Nature Energy by the University of California Davis, researchers Scott Hardman and Gil Tal surveyed Californians who purchased an electric vehicle between 2012 and 2018 and found roughly one in five switched back to owning gas-powered cars."

    Oh, and this...

    "Most indicated they found charging the batteries was a pain. Business Insiderpublished a story on the study that said of those who switched to gas, more than 70 percent lacked access to Level 2 charging at home, and slightly fewer lacked Level 2 connections at their workplace."

    WTF would you buy an EV without the ability to charge it reasonably lol.
     
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    Why is everyone so spun out on charging stations? That would only been needed for road trips and homeless people who don’t pay for an electric bill. A lot of people pay for electric service and have outlets available to them in their domiciles .

    Don’t you park ur cars at your homes over night away ways ? You like going out of your way once a week to a gas station or even charging station ? EVs will give significant amounts of people the leisure of charging from home where their car is parked for most of the time anyways. Right ? Parking ur car at home ... and charging ? Isn’t ur car sitting in the garage or drive way right now as we argue on the internet in this moment? . Ya that’s when you can re charge dude .... hello... you guys like stopping off at the quickie mart for gas and smokes or some thing ? That whole Process of “fill up gas “ is gone bud. Parking a car ... and refueling was two separate things in life. Now with an EV they can be as one, simultaneously . You can now eliminate one less step in life (not to even mentioning oil change, smog check and service steps out of ur sad life)


    For the shoe box dwellings (apartments) the land lords (or condos HOA) will need to have charging sports installed . If i lived in an apartment in this day I’d run a 100 foot long extension chord out of my 110v outlet till my land lord realized what I was doing .
    Why are people acting like electricity is so much harder to make than a f**king petroleum refinery, deliver network of container ships pipe lines and dumb semi trucks which flip over and burn up the whole freeway preventing me from getting to work on time .
     
  19. May 5, 2021 at 1:38 PM
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    Level 2 charging ???! Uhh you mean installing a 220v outlet like any non disabled electrician can perform. You don’t need a Tesla charger , a normal dryer outlet can suffice.
     
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    Click the link man, that's the very next sentence pretty much lol.

    I'd just unplug my welder.
     

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