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Emissions or ECM problem

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Ballyroebuck, Aug 19, 2024.

  1. Aug 19, 2024 at 5:54 PM
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    Ballyroebuck

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    Today my 2014 Tacoma V6 started running rough with a pronounced stumble around 40 MPH. Brought it home, limping badly, and read OBD2 code P0306 Cylinder 6 Misfire. I swapped the coil from 5 to 6 and 6 to 5, and took a look at the number 6 sparkplug, which was fine except it smelled of gas.

    When I read the OBD2 codes again, expecting a new code on cylinder 5 and 6 to be ok, instead I received a cascade of codes.

    Here is a better list of codes just read:

    OBD-IIOBD-II
    DTCs: 6
    ----------------------------
    P0300 [0x0300]
    Random/multiple cylinder(s) - misfire detected
    Random/Multiple Misfire Detected
    Status: Confirmed
    ----------------------------
    P0303 [0x0303]
    Cylinder 3 - misfire detected
    Cylinder 3 Misfire Detected
    Status: Confirmed
    ----------------------------
    P0304 [0x0304]
    Cylinder 4 - misfire detected
    Cylinder 4 Misfire Detected
    Status: Confirmed
    ----------------------------
    P219B [0x219B]
    Mixture control, bank 2 - value out of range
    Status: Confirmed
    ----------------------------
    P0306 [0x0306] Archive (inactive)
    Cylinder 6 - misfire detected
    Cylinder 6 Misfire Detected
    Status: Permanent
    ----------------------------
    P1604 [0x1604]
    Code Word Unregestered
    Status: Confirmed
    ============================
    Engine control unit #1Engine control unit #1
    DTCs: 5
    ----------------------------
    P0300 [0x0300]
    Random/multiple cylinder(s) - misfire detected
    Random/Multiple Misfire Detected
    Status: Confirmed
    ----------------------------
    P0303 [0x0303]
    Cylinder 3 - misfire detected
    Cylinder 3 Misfire Detected
    Status: Confirmed
    ----------------------------
    P0304 [0x0304]
    Cylinder 4 - misfire detected
    Cylinder 4 Misfire Detected
    Status: Confirmed
    ----------------------------
    P1604 [0x1604]
    Code Word Unregestered
    Status: Confirmed
    ----------------------------
    P219B [0x219B]
    Mixture control, bank 2 - value out of range
    Status: Confirmed
    ============================
    ABS control unit #2ABS control unit #2
    DTCs: 2
    ----------------------------
    U0073 [0xC073]
    Control module - data bus Off
    Status: Confirmed
    ----------------------------
    U0126 [0xC126]
    Data bus, steering position sensor control module - no communication
    Status: Confirmed
    ============================
    Dashboard/Instrument cluster #1
    No DTC found.

    Thanks,

    Bob
     
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  2. Aug 19, 2024 at 6:06 PM
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    Always start with U codes first even though it may seem unrelated. I'm not a Toyota Mechanic and a guy like @Bishop84 can be specifically more helpful than I. However it's likely the steering angle sensor is on the same network as the ecm (high speed CAN) so it's possible that a glitch in it could be messing with the ECM.

    Otherwise, a compression test among the other basics would be what I would check after sorting out the network issue.

    Side note: it's a good idea to also switch the spark plug to a separate cylinder than where you switch the coil as the plug can also fail internally
     
  3. Aug 19, 2024 at 6:11 PM
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    I usually ignore U codes to start, but this is a pretty odd issue.

    I'd be looking mechanically first, I'd be suspecting a leaking injector possibly, but usually you'd have a flashing engine light with this.

    It's a lot to process and imbalance codes are rough to diagnose.
     
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  4. Aug 19, 2024 at 6:16 PM
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    :anonymous:
    **shyly backs into a dark corner**
     
  5. Aug 19, 2024 at 6:23 PM
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    I say usually but this may be related, most U codes show up as history codes to us.
     
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    Sure you swapped 5 & 6?

    I would usually swap the coil/plug right next to each other not across the motor.

    Could be why the new codes causing more confusion.
     
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  7. Aug 19, 2024 at 6:54 PM
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    You're right Dillusion, I swapped 4 and 6.
     
  8. Aug 19, 2024 at 6:59 PM
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    I wouldn't worry about the U codes or AFR imbalance just yet, a weak battery can cause U codes to set.

    The AFR code is more likely an effect than a cause.

    Will your scanner show live data so you can see which cylinder(s) are currently misfiring? Sometimes a single cylinder misfire can set codes for multiple cylinders if it is misfiring badly enough.
     
  9. Aug 19, 2024 at 7:41 PM
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    I don't think my OBD reader app shows live data, so I cleared all the codes, then restarting the engine, I took another look.
    One code appeared:
    Cylinder 4 Misfire.

    Thanks for the advice on a recheck of codes. Headed to Auto Zone right now. I'll let you know.
     
  10. Aug 19, 2024 at 8:38 PM
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    I changed the number 4 coil pack and it's back to running well. As a backyard mechanic, (I'll break anything at least once), it's perplexing to me how a bad coil pack causes the ECM to throw so many codes. Sickly dread was washing over me. :)

    Thank all of you very much!

    By the way, Car Scanner ELM OBD2 seems like a good Android app.
     
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  11. Aug 19, 2024 at 8:47 PM
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    Like I said when a misfire is severe the PCM can't always tell which cylinder it's on and may flag misfires on multiple cylinders, also with a misfire your gona have a skewed AFR sensor reading because no or incomplete combustion is taking place in a cylinder.
     
  12. Aug 20, 2024 at 7:56 AM
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    Intertesting, in chevy land, Every module will throw codes and you end up with minimum 7 codes for a issue.

    Usually they're just saying they're getting invalid data from the module reporting the actual code but i've been burnt by disregarding them fully before. Had a cylinder 2 misfire caused by a lost in communication to the rear diff module that I caught my ass on
     
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  13. Aug 20, 2024 at 8:06 AM
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    That's pretty much the case for any modern vehicle, systems are so interconnected now that a fault in one module causes every other module to set faults.
    Usually by the time they get to me either the codes have been cleared and I have to scratch my head or they have so many codes in them I just document them, clear them all, and see what comes back.

    That's interesting, never seen that before.
    I see so many U codes even in perfectly functioning vehicles that I don't typically pay much attention to them unless they are persistent and related to the problem I'm trying to address.
    Half the vehicle's I see have shit batteries in them so U codes and low battery voltage codes are pretty normal to see.
     
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    That was my thought process at the time too and I still think it's a good system... that just happened to be my introduction to networking when I was an apprentice so it's forever tainted me aha
     
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    Hi @joba27n 1101 0110 0111 1010 0010 1110 1100 1111
     
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    ...hello...
     
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