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Enlighten me on something..

Discussion in 'Military' started by BrokenTusk, Aug 3, 2012.

  1. Oct 31, 2012 at 12:24 PM
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    Molon Labe

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    Yep, all three of them.
     
  2. Oct 31, 2012 at 12:29 PM
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    Fuck you ya disrespectful prick.
     
  3. Oct 31, 2012 at 12:33 PM
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    deploying federal troops against us citizens or on us soil is damn hard and designed that way by the constitution. Furthermore US soliders using force on American soil against Americans set an ungodly dangous precident.
     
  4. Oct 31, 2012 at 12:36 PM
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  5. Oct 31, 2012 at 12:44 PM
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    I was just about to post the following, then I read that you beat me to it:

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    The Posse Comitatus Act is the United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) that was passed on June 18, 1878, after the end of Reconstruction. Its intent (in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807) was to limit the powers of local governments and law enforcement agencies in using federal military personnel to enforce the laws of the land. Contrary to popular belief, the Act does not prohibit members of the Army from exercising state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order"; it simply requires that any authority to do so must exist with the United States Constitution or Act of Congress. In this way, most use of the Army and the Air Force at the direction of the President does not offend the statute, even though it may be problematic for political reasons.


    The statute only addresses the US Army and, since 1956, the US Air Force. It does not refer to, and thus does not restrict or apply to, the National Guard under state authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within its home state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state's governor (in its federal capacity, the National Guard forms part of the Army or Air Force of the United States). The Navy and Marine Corps are prohibited by a Department of Defense directive (self-regulation), but not by the Act itself. Although it is a military force, the U.S. Coast Guard, which now operates under the Department of Homeland Security, is also not covered by the Posse Comitatus Act, primarily because the Coast Guard has both a maritime law enforcement mission and a federal regulatory agency mission.
     
  6. Oct 31, 2012 at 12:44 PM
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    DrewH, I have no ill will towards you or your countrymen. And yes I know you have Troops in both theaters of war. This thread was started by a Canadian who suggested that the US bring our Troops home and use them for drug enforcement. Now if you find my comments harsh, there is nothing I can do to help you with that. Understand this, America is the reason there is still a Canada, Mexico, etc... The world would be a very different place without the US.

    Canada will provide up to 950 Canadian Forces (CF) personnel to continue training the Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF) and the Afghan National Army (ANA) until 2014.
    http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/land-terre/news-nouvelles/story-reportage-eng.asp?id=4889
     
  7. Oct 31, 2012 at 12:53 PM
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    The constitution? Last I checked the American Government didn't follow the constitution. If anyone in American actually gave a damn about the constitution, then congress would be declaring war, and not the President.
     
  8. Oct 31, 2012 at 12:57 PM
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    is canada flawless?
     
  9. Oct 31, 2012 at 12:58 PM
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    No sir.
     
  10. Oct 31, 2012 at 1:06 PM
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    the drug problem here and the size of our military have zero to do with each other.
     
  11. Oct 31, 2012 at 1:08 PM
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    the US spends about the same on their military as the next 14 highest spending countries combined. if their government was serious about getting the drug trade under control they could easily afford to divert a miniscule portion away from the military to do so.
     
  12. Oct 31, 2012 at 1:10 PM
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  13. Oct 31, 2012 at 1:13 PM
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    want to fight a war against drug abuse, then start with a war for education.
     
  14. Oct 31, 2012 at 1:17 PM
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    Correct, except when people suggest that we cut defense Spending to combat social and legal issues.
     
  15. Oct 31, 2012 at 1:17 PM
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    True enough , but you need to fund that program , correct ?
     
  16. Oct 31, 2012 at 1:20 PM
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    Actually , Canada didn't send any troops to Iraq because we did not agree there was a justification to go there

    Canada sent troops to Afganistan instead at the request of the US
     
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    yes, but they are not mutually exclusive. Both can exist together.
     
  18. Oct 31, 2012 at 1:23 PM
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    Given budgetary constraints , that may or may not be true , but I agree with your original post
     
  19. Oct 31, 2012 at 1:27 PM
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    Actually, Canada did. I worked with some of them.

    Despite Canada's official position to stay out of Iraq, Canada, in fact, was contributing forces. There were about 100 exchange officers involved in technical support roles with the U.S and Britain.
    (As well, although not publicly known at the time, the most senior Canadian officer, then brigadier general Walter Natynczyk, the current chief of defence staff, was involved in the planning of the invasion and led 10 brigades consisting of more than 35,000 soldiers in Iraq. He was awarded the Meritorious Service Cross for his efforts.)
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canadavotes/realitycheck/2008/10/our_own_voice_on_iraq.html
     
  20. Oct 31, 2012 at 1:32 PM
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    I should have stated troops in combat roles , which is what I meant
     
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