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Enough Already! Your Truck's T, HP and RPM Explained

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by hiPSI, Oct 24, 2018.

  1. Oct 21, 2020 at 3:53 AM
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    Having re-read your earlier posts about test driving a 2016, and in all fairness to Toyota engineers, they have updated their calibrations (both auto and manual) several times since the 3rd gen launch in the summer/fall of 2015. I have no personal insight into the auto trans trucks, but you will find both positive and negative opinions on whether or not these Toyota updates improved driveability in addition to solving early quirks (see list of TSBs in the sticky threads).
    Having owned an early 2016 M/T off road and then updating it with a later (TSB) Toyota calibration myself (Techstream), I can tell you it made a difference. I was already OVtuned however, so I didn't stay on the stock calibration for long lol.
    My '19 Sport M/T Sport drove similarly to the updated '16 until I OVtuned it.

    TL;DR - that '16 you drove may or may not have had it's ECM calibration updated. Old versions < new versions.
     
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  2. Oct 21, 2020 at 4:05 AM
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    Interesting and thanks for that info. I'll investigate that when I take possession. I assume an ecm update would be something that Toyota would want done and would be free of charge or a minimal cost.
     
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  3. Oct 21, 2020 at 5:04 AM
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    Interesting information. I traded my ‘17 for a ‘20 and noticed a nice difference in driveability in the ‘20. Better acceleration and it didn’t have that drop in rpm around 2nd and 3rd gear. .
     
  4. Oct 21, 2020 at 8:51 AM
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    It depends, as the ECM updates (for driveability) are usually associated with a TSB and not a recall. Technically you'd have to show the specific symptom specified in the TSB to the service dept at your dealer to get them to apply the ECM flash. There are some dealers that will flash without hassle, and some that absolutely will not unless the symptom(s) can be shown or observed. This is why quite a few of us (at least on the M/T side of the house) opted to just flash the ECM ourselves. There are entire threads dedicated to this procedure:

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/ecu-tsb-update.562550/
     
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  5. Oct 21, 2020 at 11:20 AM
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    Once again, thank you much. I have a tactrix cable for my Subaru, I believe it is a 2.0. I'll need to find out how to verify that.

    Edit - I went back through my email to 2007 and found the receipt for my cable. It's shown as a 1.2/1.3, so looks like not a 2.0. not sure what the differences are but I don't think I want to try it.
     
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  6. Mar 15, 2021 at 7:47 PM
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    My old 92 extended cab sr5 I had 33 in km2's the 3.0 v6 4.56 gears manual 5speed k&n intake no cat 8 inch cherry bomb that truck went anywhere just had to be screaming and it ripped on the hwy just had to have the rpms up I live on the washington coast and I would drive that beast to Seattle for work I loved and love that truck still have it and a 95 extended cab dlx pickup last of the last .
     
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  7. Jul 24, 2021 at 4:16 AM
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    I am happy with the way my Taco performs. Like anything else you have to rial and error then you learn the way that works for you. The power is there just gotta know how to use it.
     
  8. Sep 11, 2021 at 11:54 AM
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    So I have had my Tacoma Off-road M/T for 10 months now 12,978 miles. Test drove everything Chevy Ford Nissan and A/T Tacoma.

    This truck has plenty of power, and it likes the high RPMs I downshift to 3rd gear going 60 and I can pull out and pass like they are standing still.

    If you try that in 4th 5th or 6th better have no oncoming traffic for a mile or so.
     
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    And there's me. My truck is weak with only 159 HP. What can I do to create more horsepower
     
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  10. Jan 7, 2022 at 6:02 AM
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    Change the engine to a V6 278 HP. Not sure if you can boost a 4 to more HP unless you overhaul your engine. Even then these engine are not like the older 60-70 where you could increase HP by sooping them up. just saying.
     
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    I have seen some chips that can boost your HP on newer models.Check it out or maybe someone else here can throw some ideas at you.
     
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    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/m-w-nexus.752391/
     
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    I'm sorry but I don't find new tacoma fuel efficient at all. It is a big pile of poo that can't get out of its own way.
     
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    For a truck that uses no tricks, like auto start-stop, cylinder deactivation, turbo, 10 speed transmissions, etc, it is just as efficient as any other truck of it's size that uses a V6.
    Toyota chose to program for efficiency instead of using gimmicks. You are one data point. I got 21 mpg from my truck in a 300 mile, no interstate, drive yesterday. I am also one data point.
     
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    You are 100% correct. I am nothing but a number. Toyota and other owners could care less about my opinion of their truck. I now take the same approach. Thank you for your insight.
     
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    I bought my taco not for the speed or HP but for the Brand of which I have been using for 35 years and love them all. I have had 1-2-3 Gen and never had any complaints about speed but some people have to bitch about everything on this forum. Just drive em and enjoy em just saying.
     
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    And some people are too dumb to know they've been duped!
     
  19. Feb 27, 2022 at 5:19 AM
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    Well.... hanging the intake valves open a few degrees on the compression stroke under low load conditions is kinda gimmicky. Kinda
     
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  20. Feb 27, 2022 at 10:09 AM
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    ...yeah, but not obtrusive like cylinder deactivation or auto start stop. I really really hate that.
     
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