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Discussion in 'Electric Vehicles (EVs)' started by khaki2020offroad, Jan 29, 2021.

  1. Mar 12, 2021 at 5:01 PM
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    https://9to5mac.com/2021/03/11/toyota-apple-car-comments-support/


    As reported by the Wall Street Journal, Toyoda made the comments during a news conference fro the Japan Automobile Manufacturers Association. He explained that the key for entering the car industry is recognizing that you’ll need to provide support to customers for 40 years.

    When asked about Apple’s rumored plans for Apple Car, Toyoda said:

    Anyone can make a car if they have the technical ability, but, once they make a car, I hope they’ll recognize they have to steel themselves for 40 years of responding to customers and to various changes.

    He went on to elaborate:

    Technology companies entering the car industry means that the car industry has a future and choices for customers will widen. We welcome new entries, but I don’t think it would be fair for those people who are newly entering to say, ‘We don’t need to steel ourselves for 40 years, and you other folks who have been around for many years, you do that.’
     
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  2. Mar 27, 2021 at 6:35 AM
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    Sorry for the clickbait link:
    https://www.motor1.com/news/495759/mercedes-amg-73-models-specifications/


    Gaining an "e" at the end, the 73e models will all share a twin-turbo 4.0-liter V8 engine with an electric motor believed to be largely borrowed from the zero-emissions Mercedes EQC crossoverand EQV van. The e-motor will reportedly be good for as much as 201 horsepower (150 kW) and an instant torque of 268 lb-ft (363 Nm).

    Combined with the conventional eight-cylinder engine, the Mercedes-AMG 73e cars will unleash "previously unattained levels of power and torque." In fact, we're hearing the cars will "at least match” the 805-hp muscle delivered by the AMG GT Concept introduced at the 2017 Geneva Motor Show. The combined torque should be enough to move mountains, with the British magazine claiming the electrified AMGs will develop a massive 740 lb-ft (1,003 Nm).

    The GT73e should be the first to break cover and offer neck-snapping acceleration by sprinting to 62 mph (100 km/h) in less than three seconds en route to more than 200 mph (322 km/h). The Porsche Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid rival will be followed by an AMG S73e based on the latest S-Class and also by an AMG SL73e as a worthy successor to the 186-mph roadster from more than two decades ago.

    The report goes on to say AMG's new breed of performance cars will have an electric mode, in which case the vehicles will be purely rear-wheel drive. It is believed a similar plug-in hybrid setup will be installed in the new C63e, but with a smaller 2.0-liter four-cylinder mill instead of the V8 for a total output expected to surpass the 500-hp mark.

    If Mercedes can do this with a car - can Toyota and the others do this with a pickup? Chevy tried with a Silverado and Tahoe - but the battery tech was laughable - from 16mpg to 21mpg

    https://www.autotrader.com/car-news/chevy-tahoe-hybrid-great-idea-not-good-enough-260370
     
  3. Apr 4, 2021 at 10:48 AM
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    VanGo3 Modern vehicles are ugly.

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    Considering the junk they’ve been making for the last 30 years I’m surprised they’re still in business.
     
  5. Apr 19, 2021 at 5:24 PM
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  6. Apr 24, 2021 at 3:43 PM
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  8. May 18, 2021 at 3:31 PM
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  9. Jul 27, 2021 at 8:23 PM
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    Toyota might not be ready for electric cars progress.

    https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/26/22594235/toyota-lobbying-dc-ev-congress-biden-donation

    “The US is slowing moving toward adopting policies that would put more electric vehicles on the road, but for Toyota, it’s not slow enough. The Japanese automaker, which is the largest car company in the world, has been quietly lobbying policymakers in Washington, DC to resist the urge to transition to an all-electric future — partly because Toyota is lagging behind the rest of industry in making that transition itself.”
     
  10. Jul 27, 2021 at 10:51 PM
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    So here we are having these power supply issues. Explain just how we are supposed to recharge all these vehicles.

    Then there’s that pesky bit about electric vehicles actually having a more severe adverse effect on the environment than gas vehicles over the life of the vehicle.
     
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    1 - tech is advancing, it requires grid upgrades, but nobody is towing your truck away in the night and replacing it with an EV tomorrow.

    2 - you’re wrong, the degree to which EV’s pollute varies based on the electrical generation of your particular area, but this EV’s are worse line is just Fox News crap that isn’t based in reality. Also, battery tech continually improves. EV’s pollute less over their lifespan today than IC, and the R&D into new technologies will continue to grow the gap in the future.
     
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    Right, because reality is whatever you say it is.
     
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    No, because I’ve been working in the energy efficiency industry for a decade, understand the science, and know how to interpret data.

    But obviously reality is only what YOU think it is.
     
  14. Jul 28, 2021 at 6:55 AM
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    Actually reality is a personalized view based on previous experience.
     
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    you literally just said reality is only what you think it is, just after trying to insult me by saying reality is only what I think it is? Get your opinions straight, man.
     
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    Nikola's founder and former chairman charged by SEC for making false statements and misleading investors. EV blogs have been screaming this for months (maybe even years), but suprised/glad its actually happening.

    While Nikola was never going to be a major player, it still gives the EV doubters more cannon fodder and makes it more difficult on the legitimate EV contenders to gain consumers and investors trust and ultimately drive change.

    https://www.axios.com/nikola-trevor-milton-fraud-640f3cbf-e391-44d4-8bb8-005b0f12f7c2.html
     
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    EVs are on par with gas vehicles for the first few years and then the rest is free. I don’t have the link on hand that boiled down the footprint from parts and sourcing to power generation, but the notion that EVs are even close to pollutant level of an ICE is pure nonsense.
     
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    Ever see the lithium mines in Africa? By comparison oil production is pristine.
     
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    just no man, put a picture of a lithium mine next to a tar sands pit and tell me which one is worse.
     
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