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I meant holden/Isuzu dmax

 

It is your kids that will really feel the effect. It's long past time to pull your thumb out and actually realize burning things to make power is not sustainable. I'm 75 I have seen the changes it is not getting better corporate is pulling the strings.

 

When have they not? lol

 

Liquid storage of fuel has been convenient for a very long time. It will be difficult for society to get use to the idea that charging or changing batteries is the new normal. I am still a big fan of bio-based fuels as a hybrid solution not ruling out ICE all together.

 

The sales of ICE vehicles will be limited in the next few decades but they will remain around long after we are all gone.

 

I don’t know, will be awfully nice to be able to charge from home. Going to the gas station is another chore that I have grown to hate after years and years of doing it. Once people realize they no longer have to go fill up, they’ll be more than fine with it. It is the convenience stores that are going to suffer.

 

Which is garbage food and overpriced items anyway.

 

There’s a couple of interesting things I’ve read in the past 6 months hat I’ve found interesting. Car and Driver magazine awarded their first EV of the year back in the summer. One of the things they did was pit the contenders against each other in a 1,000 miles race across 4 states. They started in Ann Arbor and had mandatory waypoints in a loop that took them back to Ann Arbor. To emulate how average drivers might do it, they were required to stop from midnight to 8 am. They recharged as needed where charging stations were available. The Tesla Model S Long Range Plus did the 1,000 miles in 14 hour, 38 minutes drive time. Total charging time for 1,000 miles was one hour, 36 minutes. It was followed by 2 other Teslas taking advantage of the Tesla Supercharger. As a point of reference, the Mustang Mach E, which was named EV of the Year, by the way, did it in 20 hours, 32 minutes drive time, with a charge time of 5 hours, 6 minutes. The absolute worst, was the Nissan Leaf, which took 21hours, 42 minutes drive time, with 11 hours, 15 minutes charging time.

Also, in the latest edition of Road and Track there was an article about Ford and Chevy providing crate EV systems. Chevy’s is a collection of mostly Bolt EV components that can into virtually any existing vehicle and can be connected to a conventional transmission. Cars with enough room under the hood can even stack motor units for most horsepower. Ford’s unit uses the Mustang Mach E GT’s electric motor, but unlike Chevy, doesn’t include the batteries or control units. Makes me think that EVs are here to stay.

 

I think the Leaf has less like 60% less battery capacity than the Mach E. So I get why it was the worst in charge time.

 

Yep. Won’t be a terrible loss.

 

Got to remember that the Nissan Leaf is THE DEFINITION of an electric "economy" car. It has the least battery maintenance technology on the market. Basically it has an electric motor to move it, a battery pack to run the motor, and minimal charging technology. Where the battery pack & charging technology in the Tesla Model S is made to last hundreds of thousands of miles before there's any observable degridation, you'll be changing out the batteries in the Leaf on regular intervals. But it's cheap...lol

 

Oh, I understand that the Tesla and the Nissan are at opposite ends of the spectrum. I just thought it was a pretty good indication of their differences technology-wise.

 

The Leaf has a range choice of 150 miles or 226 miles.

 

EV Fire Trucks being sold now.

https://insideevs.com/news/547822/eone-vector-electric-fire-truck/amp/

 

Toyota bZ4X will Go On Sale In Spring 2022, a few searches say $40k for the 72Kw AWD version. Range is 250 miles for the FWD version no listing for the AWD version.

 

I don’t hate it, seems like they went from giant grills to make the front ends to look like snow plows. Lol!

Still cars are useless to me, need a truck or a van. Only if Toyota would do an electric AWD/4WD HiAce…

 

Yeh Soon there will be lots of choices. Rivian is wayyy out of my price range.

 

Would imagine once the major manufacturers get on board the price will come down, though gas trucks today aren’t exactly cheap either.

 

IMO the Rivians and Teslas of the world are going to be in for a world of hurt... or be resigned to a small sliver at the top end of the market. Tesla cherry picked low volume models for wealthy early adopters that the big guys just let go because they couldn't profit from it. But when it comes to making vehicles for the rest of us when the EV rollout gets serious these guys will never be able to compete. Toyota, Honda, GM, Ford, Nissan, Hyundai know how to build cars and trucks. They are also well along developing the EV and hybrid powertrains that they will be able to produce at scales and volumes Tesla can only imagine. I can't wait to see what Toyota comes out with. Love to see a hybrid Tacoma soon.

 

Nailed it.