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Expanding our deck from 120 SQ/FT to about 550 SQ/FT

Discussion in 'Garage / Workshop' started by BTR, Jul 29, 2013.

  1. Jul 29, 2013 at 11:05 AM
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    If you have housewrap, that would be a great way to go. Wasn't thinking about that, mine isn't wrapped :cool:
     
  2. Jul 29, 2013 at 11:13 AM
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    Here is an example of getting the flashing installed correctly for your application. I will look for others if you need them.

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  3. Jul 29, 2013 at 11:16 AM
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  4. Jul 29, 2013 at 11:16 AM
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    Top flashing should be lapped by the housewrap , no ?
     
  5. Jul 29, 2013 at 11:17 AM
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    Paper ?
     
  6. Jul 29, 2013 at 11:20 AM
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    I have seen it done both ways. Normally on TOTALLY new construction, including house, you would put the house wrap over the top flashing. On new construction you can put flashing over the house wrap if it is at least 4 inches high against the wall. Right now we are trying to help the OP out with sealing the joist-to-house connection AFTER the deck framing has been built.
     
  7. Jul 29, 2013 at 11:21 AM
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    1906, no sir. They put wood siding directly on the studs (not shingles, milled wood siding), then the previous owner put vinyl siding directly over that. So yeah... no vapor retarder. I've been adding one as I've made my way through the house renovations. Come construction experts up here are actually making the argument that a vapor retarder isn't necessary. Seems like the people who built my house were just ahead of their time :)
     
  8. Jul 29, 2013 at 11:22 AM
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    I didn't think about that Grace stuff but that's good stuff and seals up well. It's self healing so it seals up around any nail holes. It's a little pricey but it does work.
     
  9. Jul 29, 2013 at 11:24 AM
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    Pricey? You consider $27.00 for a 75 foot long roll pricey? Wow Pugga, you are a shrew! :D:D:D
     
  10. Jul 29, 2013 at 11:29 AM
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    Damn, I'm thinking the wrong stuff... :eek: I was thinking ice and water shield, that stuff was $120 for a 75' roll. That being said, I don't know if the deck stuff is self healing like the ice and water shield. FWIW, ice and water shield does do well under flashing, I used it around a door I installed last year and covered it with that white aluminum flashing :D
     
  11. Jul 29, 2013 at 11:46 AM
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    Yeah, this stuff is specifically designed to work as deck sealer around joists and such.
     
  12. Jul 29, 2013 at 11:58 AM
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    It all depends
     
  13. Jul 29, 2013 at 11:59 AM
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    We use that Grace peel and stick with untreated Fir joists for decks
     
  14. Jul 29, 2013 at 12:01 PM
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    I know that , like I posted before , cut the housewrap 1" above the ledger , tape the wrap to the sheathing , install flashing over the tape with the wall leg of the flashing under the upper housewrap

    also : what good is flashing on the outside of the housewrap ? Is that really code there ? That's dumb
     
  15. Jul 29, 2013 at 12:07 PM
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    noted.

    wonder why that is. is that for aesthetics or for expansion purposes?
     
  16. Jul 29, 2013 at 12:10 PM
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    You're using the Camo fastener system with those boards ? They look like they are rabbetted on each edge to accept T style proprietary fasteners
     
  17. Jul 29, 2013 at 12:12 PM
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    I needed this! Thank you very much
     
  18. Jul 29, 2013 at 12:13 PM
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    I know, it's all vapor drive but because we have hot, humid summers and cold, dry winters the vapor drive completely reverses.

    OZ, you don't even want to get into MA building code... We have some of the most ludicris codes you'll ever see.
     
  19. Jul 29, 2013 at 12:13 PM
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    the question is now how the hell do I install the undersill trim
     
  20. Jul 29, 2013 at 12:16 PM
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    I would continue the top flashing down past the bottom edge of the carrier and make a drip edge on the end and not worry about the undersill trim if it were me.
     
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