1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Extending new bilsteins to replace rear shocks

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Cland75, Aug 3, 2022.

  1. Aug 3, 2022 at 10:37 AM
    #21
    drizzoh

    drizzoh itsjdmy0

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2020
    Member:
    #332922
    Messages:
    737
    First Name:
    Andrew
    Arizona
    Vehicle:
    2021 Tacoma TRD Off-Road 4x4
    Yes... He left out much information. But solid rear axle with leaf packs is pretty much the same setup though regardless of application when troubleshooting issues like this. My questions were vague and not directed at a certain gen. Just things for the OP to look out for and rule out.

    Why do you guys get so bent out of shape when someone with a 3g posts in another gen section? My questions were not 3g specific.
     
    Cland75 [OP], landphil and Kwikvette like this.
  2. Aug 3, 2022 at 10:38 AM
    #22
    Kwikvette

    Kwikvette Woke up and chose violence

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2019
    Member:
    #284735
    Messages:
    45,220
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    80 Series Land Cruiser
    Stock
    That was my first thought.

    Even a factory leaf pack can stretch longer than a factory shock allows.
     
    drizzoh likes this.
  3. Aug 3, 2022 at 10:39 AM
    #23
    Kwikvette

    Kwikvette Woke up and chose violence

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2019
    Member:
    #284735
    Messages:
    45,220
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    80 Series Land Cruiser
    Stock
    2nd/3rd Genners post all the time! Super cool.

    Just can't make the same assumptions about certain things like factory shocks that's all. But you are correct about everything else.
     
  4. Aug 3, 2022 at 10:43 AM
    #24
    Cland75

    Cland75 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2022
    Member:
    #397076
    Messages:
    174
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Piedmont NC
    Vehicle:
    99 Tacoma SR5 4x4
    The truck is on the ground and I will get pictures once I am able to get the rear shocks off but I am not going to attempt that until I have shocks that will fit. I wish I could see the numbers impressed into the rear shocks but they are turned exactly where I cannot get a good view. The truck is on the ground currently but am I incorrect in the simple fact that the passenger an driver side rear shocks on my make an model are for sure different lengths and not by under an inch. You can tell just by looking with the naked eye that the passenger side is several inches longer. The new shocks I have are 1/4 to 1/2 inch difference in length and just not going to work.
     
  5. Aug 3, 2022 at 10:46 AM
    #25
    Kwikvette

    Kwikvette Woke up and chose violence

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2019
    Member:
    #284735
    Messages:
    45,220
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    80 Series Land Cruiser
    Stock
    You shouldn't have to extend your shocks to fit them if your truck's on the ground.

    On the contrary, you'd have to compress them.

    Had to do that more than a fair share of times whenever I'd switch my Fox to my Bilsteins and back again. Did this maybe 10 different times.

    Was just too lazy to get my jack and jackstands so I'd get underneath and force them by hand. Took longer getting my tools than it did swapping them out.
     
    Kevins60 and MalinoisDad like this.
  6. Aug 3, 2022 at 10:46 AM
    #26
    Cland75

    Cland75 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2022
    Member:
    #397076
    Messages:
    174
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Piedmont NC
    Vehicle:
    99 Tacoma SR5 4x4
    Leaf springs were just replaced last week with General Springs regular duty springs. Was going to tackle the rear shocks today but that isnt going to happen. I am going to get the Toyota numbers off my shocks that are on the truck an see what is going on with that.
     
    Kwikvette likes this.
  7. Aug 3, 2022 at 10:49 AM
    #27
    Cland75

    Cland75 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2022
    Member:
    #397076
    Messages:
    174
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Piedmont NC
    Vehicle:
    99 Tacoma SR5 4x4
    Something just isn't adding up so I am just as confused as you all. Have replaced the shocks struts leaf springs etc before and never had any issues.
     
  8. Aug 3, 2022 at 10:51 AM
    #28
    Kwikvette

    Kwikvette Woke up and chose violence

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2019
    Member:
    #284735
    Messages:
    45,220
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    80 Series Land Cruiser
    Stock
    With your truck on the ground, are you sure you're not accidentally accounting for driver lean?

    Your shocks can compress at different rates on each side, considering your truck is on the ground. Any measurements of your shocks at this point are moot.

    Only lifting your truck, with the wheels off the ground, will tell you how long your current shocks are.
     
  9. Aug 3, 2022 at 10:52 AM
    #29
    Kwikvette

    Kwikvette Woke up and chose violence

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2019
    Member:
    #284735
    Messages:
    45,220
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    80 Series Land Cruiser
    Stock
    It's not confusing, it's just that we don't think you're looking at things correctly.

    Did you ever measure your current shocks with them off your truck? It's a 5 minute job, remove it and you'll see. Otherwise if you're only gauging their length while they're compressed, you will get an inaccurate measurement.
     
    Cland75 [OP] likes this.
  10. Aug 3, 2022 at 11:01 AM
    #30
    Cland75

    Cland75 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2022
    Member:
    #397076
    Messages:
    174
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Piedmont NC
    Vehicle:
    99 Tacoma SR5 4x4
    I appreciate the help an understand but without having the right down to the exact 1/8th of an inch measurement I can tell just by looking that the Bilstein I ordered is just to short to fit the passenger side. Thats why my initial question was about extending. The job isnt difficult I just dont wanna remove my rear shocks just to have to put them back on because without the new shock being several inches longer it will be WAY to short to reach the mounts. I will have the Toyota part numbers here shortly I am going to get it jacked up an take the tire off so I can see the part number. I will post when I get the numbers off but its very odd that the new shock is so short it wont even come close
     
    Kwikvette likes this.
  11. Aug 3, 2022 at 11:04 AM
    #31
    Kwikvette

    Kwikvette Woke up and chose violence

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2019
    Member:
    #284735
    Messages:
    45,220
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    80 Series Land Cruiser
    Stock
    I will say, jacking up the vehicle (you don't need to remove the tire at all) will take me longer than removing the rear shock as is :rofl:

    But answer me this; based on the link I provided and the measurements listed, do your new shocks measure out to the same extended length?

    If so, just install them.

    You'll laugh at yourself and think of this as a learning experience.
     
  12. Aug 3, 2022 at 11:29 AM
    #32
    YF_Ryan

    YF_Ryan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Member:
    #211450
    Messages:
    3,033
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ryan
    Kent, WA
    Vehicle:
    2011 Silver Tacoma TRD Offroad
    Icon Coil Overs. Deaver U402 Stage 3 Leafs w/ Bilstein 5160s. ARB Deluxe Bull Bar. Fuel Boost wheels w/ Wrangler Duratracs. Brute Force Fab Sliders & HC Rear Bumper w/swingout
    Cland75 [OP] likes this.
  13. Aug 3, 2022 at 12:26 PM
    #33
    Cland75

    Cland75 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2022
    Member:
    #397076
    Messages:
    174
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Piedmont NC
    Vehicle:
    99 Tacoma SR5 4x4
    Hey Ryan yeah I got the frame fixed this is what it looked like when the gas tank got dropped. I have no idea how it didnt just snap in half the only thing holding it even remotely close together was the leaf spring mount. 290292.jpg
     
  14. Aug 3, 2022 at 12:30 PM
    #34
    Cland75

    Cland75 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2022
    Member:
    #397076
    Messages:
    174
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Piedmont NC
    Vehicle:
    99 Tacoma SR5 4x4
    And full update on what was going on with my shock lol. I am a dumba** they had fed a wire through the boot holding it compressed and I didnt see it. As soon as I clipped the wire it extended right where it needed to be. This wire was like a thread it was so small so I would love to have a spool of that stuff whatever its made of is stout!! Its like spiderwire fishing line.
     
    Chungas and whatstcp like this.
  15. Aug 3, 2022 at 12:33 PM
    #35
    Kwikvette

    Kwikvette Woke up and chose violence

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2019
    Member:
    #284735
    Messages:
    45,220
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    80 Series Land Cruiser
    Stock
    :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

    SEE!

    LEARNING EXPERIENCE!

    I've always seen that flat plastic wrap, or wire ties, but nothing that even closely resembled fishing line.
     
    MalinoisDad and Cland75 [OP] like this.
  16. Aug 3, 2022 at 12:44 PM
    #36
    Cland75

    Cland75 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2022
    Member:
    #397076
    Messages:
    174
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Piedmont NC
    Vehicle:
    99 Tacoma SR5 4x4
    I know me either....stuff like plastic cord....zip ties...things like that but this stuff was literally like spiderwire which I do love fishing with but those a**holes had to use it on these shocks just to have me waste half a day lol. I saw it and clipped it an the shock opened up nice an smooth so primed it a few times and slapped them on. So now thats Frame repaired..new sway bar links an bushings....new Regular duty General Springs leaf springs.....Bilstein 5100's with 880 coils on the front....4600's on the rear and all fluids front to back flushed or replaced. New tires an alignment being done next Wed and a wallet thats so empty I dunno why I needed a suspension at all but it sure will make road trips alot more tolerable. Oh an about 4 cans of fluid film which smells so good!
     
  17. Aug 3, 2022 at 1:01 PM
    #37
    Primo 95

    Primo 95 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2012
    Member:
    #81207
    Messages:
    772
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Primo!
    San Antonio, TX
    Vehicle:
    2012 DCSB 4X4
    265/75/16 S/T Maxx 16X8.5 Level 8 Trackers 5100 1.75 HID, LED interior, 3" N-Fab step bars
    Until the OP posts some some exact measurements and photos. I think you may have possibly received box of returned shocks with the wrong ones in it.

    [​IMG]
     
    Cland75 [OP] likes this.
  18. Aug 3, 2022 at 1:05 PM
    #38
    landphil

    landphil Wishin' I was Fishin'

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2011
    Member:
    #52290
    Messages:
    2,981
    Gender:
    Male
    BC, Canada
    Vehicle:
    RIP 2006 Tacoma DCSB
    Tundra 5.7 mod
    Reading post 34 could have saved a few kernels from exploding in hot oil.
     
    Cland75 [OP], YF_Ryan and whatstcp like this.
  19. Aug 3, 2022 at 1:10 PM
    #39
    Cland75

    Cland75 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2022
    Member:
    #397076
    Messages:
    174
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Piedmont NC
    Vehicle:
    99 Tacoma SR5 4x4
    Hahaha.......the excitement is overwhelming at times!!
     
    landphil likes this.
  20. Aug 3, 2022 at 1:28 PM
    #40
    whatstcp

    whatstcp currently drunk so don't listen to me

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2018
    Member:
    #261584
    Messages:
    10,500
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ed
    Fontana, CA
    Vehicle:
    2006 Tacoma Regular Cab 2.7l 4x4
    King + Archive Relocation Wheeler's bumps +hydros
    D'oh! Hey that works! Usually it's thick easily visible zip tie material. Glad it worked out, I was running out of ideas lol like damn maybe the frame is hella tweaked. Awesome news man.
     
    Cland75 [OP] and Kwikvette like this.

Products Discussed in

To Top