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Fail Safe Traction Control?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by IcePlant, Apr 18, 2018.

  1. Apr 18, 2018 at 8:15 AM
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    I turned off traction control to have a little fun. I took a turn heavy on the throttle and it seems like traction control engaged, and a yellow light on the dash quickly illuminated then disappeared. Is this some sort of rollover protection? Or a secondary/fail-safe traction control?
    I haven't looked at what dash light actually came on yet... thanks
     
  2. Apr 18, 2018 at 8:20 AM
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    Did you turn it all the way off? Pressing the button just turns off a portion of traction control, but will not turn off the Auto LSD. If you hold down the button at a complete stop you will see another light come on that says TRAC off, this is the nanny free zone.
     
  3. Apr 18, 2018 at 8:21 AM
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    I have turned mine off plenty of times, but whenever the truck feels something weird it still engages. I am considering just removing the fuse for the fucker as I don't want to die one day from it.
     
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  4. Apr 18, 2018 at 8:30 AM
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    Thank you. It wasn't off all the way. I only pressed the button...
     
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  5. Apr 18, 2018 at 8:31 AM
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    Yesterday I was having a little fun on a dirt road and I had held down the button til I got the TRAC off light signifying that it was all turned off. And indeed you can get pretty sideways in that mode. But at one point I took off from a dead stop at full throttle with the wheels spinning big time and the traction control actually did kick in and cut the throttle back to zero for about a second. It’s only ever applied that much throttle limiting when I had the tires seriously spinning as if I were just trying to do a burnout. But this happeneded in the full TRAC off mode. So yeah I think you’re right. I don’t think they let us turn it completely off with the button. They just let you turn it off enough to have a little fun. The traction control and vehicle stability system work incredibly well when they’re turn on. I’m glad to have them but it’s kinda lame when you can’t actually COMPLETELY disengage them.
     
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  6. Apr 18, 2018 at 8:59 AM
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    You sure that wasn't the WOT (wide open throttle) hesitation thing... feels like a dead spot in the little pedal??
     
  7. Apr 18, 2018 at 9:33 AM
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    Just to let you all know, it's nearly impossible to truly disable traction control on modern vehicles...
     
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    That's called a rev limiter. It stops you from over revving the engine until it goes pop.
     
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  9. Apr 19, 2018 at 9:17 AM
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    Eh...when Im driving on the highway and its slightly raining out it decides to kick in while Im doing a casual turn quite a bit. I don't mind crashing when its my fault, but when I get the random brake checks while making normal maneuevers on road at speed unpredictably kind of freaks me out.
     
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    You need to just drink the cool aid and let it do it's thing. Them computer things are smart. You may crash if you freak out and try to fight it but stability control is very good at keeping the truck on track. Play around with it next time you have some snow or a some dirt, you'll be surprised at how it works and less surprised next time it kicks in under normal driving.
     
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    True, next time I will just plow through a few vehicles next to me and see if I still roll over. Getting sideways on trail isn't a new thing for me, but at 65-80 on highway is a different story.
     
  12. Apr 19, 2018 at 9:31 AM
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    I'm not really sure. I took it out in the snow a few months back and it was letting me do wide-open throttle, full wheel spin, BRZ/FRS wannabe revs without kicking in. But this was mainly in straight lines. I'm surprised the ECU was letting me hoon this much. My GTI had more engine safety features/nanny shit that this truck does, I think.
     
  13. Apr 19, 2018 at 9:33 AM
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    The traction control is doing that most likely because you're hydroplaning... In other words it's trying to keep you from crashing...
     
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    Wouldn't you know if you were hydroplaning??? Also if you are truly hydroplaning, I sort of doubt brakes will do much considering you are in a frictionless state.
     
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    With all due respect, if it's wet on the roads and the tires kick out in a "casual" turn (and on the highway!?), you're driving too fast for conditions. Slow down and don't put every other driver's life and property at risk.
     
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    They don't kick...more like front end drops due to random locked up braking and then it pulls me in a direction if Im not going straight. If I was going fast enough to skid around stuff I probably would have lost control long ago, simply going with the flow of traffic stuff. To be honest this has to do with the yaw control I have been trying to adjust on it as Im not stock or stock height.

    @misdirection1982, don't want you to miss out bruh.
     
  17. Apr 19, 2018 at 9:54 AM
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    I have the same issue with my traction control on a lifted 4Runner. It’s the factory yaw control that needs to be bypassed and reset in the fuse panel. No big deal. Just gotta jump two fuses. It is more for lifted trucks then stock or spacer lifts.
     
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    We got to get together then to correct this crap...Going into grandma mode the second it rains gets old.
     
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    Most people don't know they are hydroplaning. Your brakes will start working at 100% when your speed is below 35 mph, which you won't achieve unless you SLOW DOWN aka take your right foot off the skinny pedal and apply the brakes. Hydroplaning occurs because you're going too fast
     
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    So you are saying I’m hydroplaning when it hasn’t rained the ground is dry and I’m going 30mph around a corner?

    Today’s modern tires have so much technology in them that a 4K+ pound Tacoma isn’t hydroplaning at 35mph. If that’s the case then in a rain storm every car on the interstate would be crashing.
     
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