1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

FEELER: 2 inch thick 2.7 intake manifold spacer

Discussion in '2nd Gen Tacoma Marketplace' started by tooter, Aug 31, 2013.

  1. Sep 2, 2013 at 9:18 AM
    #21
    allmotorrex

    allmotorrex Grove St. Motorsports

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2010
    Member:
    #42441
    Messages:
    11,180
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Gideon
    Memphis 901
    Vehicle:
    08 SR5 4wd 2.7
    4.88s w/h rear Powertrax locker, Fox 2.5 Ext. RR COs, Camburg 1.25” ucas, Fox 12" smooth body RR, BAMF shock kit, AP 3" springs, ext. brake lines, 315/75/16 BFG KM2, AP 1.5" spacers, 16x8 Pro Comp wheels, BFF front hybrid, GSM rear HC, Relentless Fab ifs skid, BAMF lca skids, BAMF k/o sliders, X2O 10K comp. winch, TP glass fenders, OKled 20"bar, EBS dimpled/slotted rotors, EBS green pads, K&N 63 CAI, LCE headers, FM Super 44 w/h turn down, URD MAF cali., LCE Dual Comp clutch, URD ss, TMPer M1 Abrams shift knob, Amsoil oil, Cobra 75wxst w/h 4' firestix, ARB compressor, Grillcraft, FXR TRS, T1 eyelids, 500 hellas w/h 6k hid conv., custom ADV Monster model 60 lights, bed lights, speedo light mod, Glow Shift volt/oil pres gauges, Glow shift 2g column pod, Optima yellow tops dual battery setup w/h IBS system, Pioneer DEH-P7200HD head unit, Pioneer 600W 4ch & 350w 2ch amps for doors and sub, Wet Oakle covers, Weather Tech
    Haha well let's just say I'm lost at why anyone would pay anything for literally no positive gain. And I know you are well aware that just because the hours in r&d were put in doesnt make something worth a lot of money. Results are everything. I'm glad that you showed some results cause I know it sucks to put time, effort, and money into something and it turn out worthless.
     
  2. Sep 2, 2013 at 10:13 AM
    #22
    allmotorrex

    allmotorrex Grove St. Motorsports

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2010
    Member:
    #42441
    Messages:
    11,180
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Gideon
    Memphis 901
    Vehicle:
    08 SR5 4wd 2.7
    4.88s w/h rear Powertrax locker, Fox 2.5 Ext. RR COs, Camburg 1.25” ucas, Fox 12" smooth body RR, BAMF shock kit, AP 3" springs, ext. brake lines, 315/75/16 BFG KM2, AP 1.5" spacers, 16x8 Pro Comp wheels, BFF front hybrid, GSM rear HC, Relentless Fab ifs skid, BAMF lca skids, BAMF k/o sliders, X2O 10K comp. winch, TP glass fenders, OKled 20"bar, EBS dimpled/slotted rotors, EBS green pads, K&N 63 CAI, LCE headers, FM Super 44 w/h turn down, URD MAF cali., LCE Dual Comp clutch, URD ss, TMPer M1 Abrams shift knob, Amsoil oil, Cobra 75wxst w/h 4' firestix, ARB compressor, Grillcraft, FXR TRS, T1 eyelids, 500 hellas w/h 6k hid conv., custom ADV Monster model 60 lights, bed lights, speedo light mod, Glow Shift volt/oil pres gauges, Glow shift 2g column pod, Optima yellow tops dual battery setup w/h IBS system, Pioneer DEH-P7200HD head unit, Pioneer 600W 4ch & 350w 2ch amps for doors and sub, Wet Oakle covers, Weather Tech
    Huh? My first sentence isn't referring to tooter. Read young one. He asked me a question
     
  3. Sep 2, 2013 at 10:26 AM
    #23
    2007 tacoma

    2007 tacoma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2011
    Member:
    #50542
    Messages:
    238
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    LEEEEEEROOOYYY JENKINS!
    Vehicle:
    2007 Access Cab
    16" Alloys, K&N intake, Class III Hitch, US Truck Cap Rack, Carpeted Bed Mat, WeatherTechs, SeatSaver covers, Many more in the works
    I'm interested in finding out more.
     
  4. Sep 2, 2013 at 10:28 AM
    #24
    08pretaco

    08pretaco Almost there

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2008
    Member:
    #9502
    Messages:
    9,160
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Oliver
    az
    Vehicle:
    2014 Tundra 4x4 CM 5.7L SR5
    AFE pro dry s, Husky X-act Contour
    I see a personal gain for me from his dyno sheet that fits my driving style.
     
  5. Sep 2, 2013 at 10:29 AM
    #25
    tooter

    tooter [OP] play every day

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2013
    Member:
    #102021
    Messages:
    2,393
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Greg
    Los Angeles
    Vehicle:
    2012, std cab, 5 lug, 2.7, 5 speed
    Built for maximum low end torque, tooter II.VII intake manifold spacer, LCE long tube header, Injen long tube intake, 2,900 rpm torque peak.
    That's one reason I went for the absolutely thickest spacer that would fit within the available space. To make damn sure that it would actually yield a measurable difference. Even at 2 inches the difference is already modest enough, so at one inch or a half inch, the results would have been unconvincingly anemic.

    And since everything else is essentially the same except for material costs, a 2 inch spacer gives you the best bang for the buck. :)
     
    Last edited: Sep 2, 2013
  6. Sep 3, 2013 at 12:30 AM
    #26
    tooter

    tooter [OP] play every day

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2013
    Member:
    #102021
    Messages:
    2,393
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Greg
    Los Angeles
    Vehicle:
    2012, std cab, 5 lug, 2.7, 5 speed
    Built for maximum low end torque, tooter II.VII intake manifold spacer, LCE long tube header, Injen long tube intake, 2,900 rpm torque peak.
    Ok. :)
    I'll add you to the list. It's not a commitment to buy, just an expression of your interest to help me decide approximately how many spacers will be made.
     
  7. Sep 3, 2013 at 12:34 AM
    #27
    tooter

    tooter [OP] play every day

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2013
    Member:
    #102021
    Messages:
    2,393
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Greg
    Los Angeles
    Vehicle:
    2012, std cab, 5 lug, 2.7, 5 speed
    Built for maximum low end torque, tooter II.VII intake manifold spacer, LCE long tube header, Injen long tube intake, 2,900 rpm torque peak.
    I'll also add your name to the list.
     
  8. Sep 3, 2013 at 6:11 AM
    #28
    08pretaco

    08pretaco Almost there

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2008
    Member:
    #9502
    Messages:
    9,160
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Oliver
    az
    Vehicle:
    2014 Tundra 4x4 CM 5.7L SR5
    AFE pro dry s, Husky X-act Contour
    If I was keeping my truck I would be all over this.
     
  9. Sep 3, 2013 at 7:08 AM
    #29
    camojared

    camojared Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2013
    Member:
    #104007
    Messages:
    348
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jared
    NW Ohio
    Vehicle:
    07 4x4 SR5 2.7L 5spd
    Fog Lights Anytime, Second Air Filter Delete
    Did you ever decide if it helped/hurt your mpg?
     
  10. Sep 3, 2013 at 8:27 AM
    #30
    KWMF

    KWMF B.S. Goodwrench

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2012
    Member:
    #84332
    Messages:
    1,278
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Zack
    WNC
    Vehicle:
    2013 RC 4WD AT
    20% Tint, Factory Cruise, Delayed Wiper Switch, Factory Fogs, Hitch, Toyota OEM bed box,
  11. Sep 3, 2013 at 8:39 AM
    #31
    tooter

    tooter [OP] play every day

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2013
    Member:
    #102021
    Messages:
    2,393
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Greg
    Los Angeles
    Vehicle:
    2012, std cab, 5 lug, 2.7, 5 speed
    Built for maximum low end torque, tooter II.VII intake manifold spacer, LCE long tube header, Injen long tube intake, 2,900 rpm torque peak.
    Ok. I'll take you off. ;)
     
  12. Sep 3, 2013 at 8:58 AM
    #32
    tooter

    tooter [OP] play every day

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2013
    Member:
    #102021
    Messages:
    2,393
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Greg
    Los Angeles
    Vehicle:
    2012, std cab, 5 lug, 2.7, 5 speed
    Built for maximum low end torque, tooter II.VII intake manifold spacer, LCE long tube header, Injen long tube intake, 2,900 rpm torque peak.
    Hadn't done that yet, but just now added up the mileage logs. It's only a very slight increase of 1.6 mpg.

    533 miles @22.36 gallons with no spacer 23.8 mpg
    519 miles @ 20.388 gallons with the spacer 25.4 mpg

    I should be able to get a more accurate profile with more miles driven. From the results, at least I'm sure that it didn't hurt the gas mileage any.:)

    I think the most interesting effect doesn't show up on the dyno charts because they can't go that low. It's starting out slipping the clutch from a full stop. The engine pulls nicely at very low rpms, even below idle speed without stalling, so it doesn't hardly take any throttle to get the truck moving, even with my 5 lug's really high street 3.31 final gearing. This makes it really easy on the clutch, and I think that over time it will last longer.
     
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2013
  13. Sep 3, 2013 at 9:24 AM
    #33
    camojared

    camojared Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2013
    Member:
    #104007
    Messages:
    348
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jared
    NW Ohio
    Vehicle:
    07 4x4 SR5 2.7L 5spd
    Fog Lights Anytime, Second Air Filter Delete
    I have the 4x4, I wonder if it would lower the tq curve even further bc of gearing.

    Did you notice a mpg difference after you added the lce header?
     
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2013
  14. Sep 3, 2013 at 9:45 AM
    #34
    tooter

    tooter [OP] play every day

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2013
    Member:
    #102021
    Messages:
    2,393
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Greg
    Los Angeles
    Vehicle:
    2012, std cab, 5 lug, 2.7, 5 speed
    Built for maximum low end torque, tooter II.VII intake manifold spacer, LCE long tube header, Injen long tube intake, 2,900 rpm torque peak.
    Gearing can't alter the torque curve of the engine. However, gearing can alter how your truck performs. Torque feels different than horsepower.

    Horsepower is the ability to gain rpms rapidly... the ability to accelerate.

    While torque is the ability to hold a given rpm under a heavy load... the ability to pull.

    Couldn't really tell...

    ... because I bought the truck on April 13th
    and installed the header on the 19th! :laugh:
     
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2013
  15. Sep 3, 2013 at 10:30 AM
    #35
    05taco2.7

    05taco2.7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2012
    Member:
    #78300
    Messages:
    277
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    JIMSTER
    omaha nebraska
    Vehicle:
    my truck
    Bilstein 5100s, ome coils ,Toytec aal, fj cruiser wheels, 33s, 14inch led light bar, kc highlites,
    Sooooooo interested for the right price ( I'd prolly pay in the 100-200 range)


    I do some mild trailering and a lot of driven like a bat out of hell so I'd love more torque in the lower rpm
     
  16. Sep 3, 2013 at 10:52 AM
    #36
    camojared

    camojared Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2013
    Member:
    #104007
    Messages:
    348
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jared
    NW Ohio
    Vehicle:
    07 4x4 SR5 2.7L 5spd
    Fog Lights Anytime, Second Air Filter Delete
    Yea I guess not really lower it but starting/crawling would be even easier than a street geared taco.
     
  17. Sep 3, 2013 at 11:33 AM
    #37
    tooter

    tooter [OP] play every day

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2013
    Member:
    #102021
    Messages:
    2,393
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Greg
    Los Angeles
    Vehicle:
    2012, std cab, 5 lug, 2.7, 5 speed
    Built for maximum low end torque, tooter II.VII intake manifold spacer, LCE long tube header, Injen long tube intake, 2,900 rpm torque peak.
    Absolutely...
    ...because with lower gearing, the engine has more mechanical advantage (leverage) over the wheels. For heavier vehicles with heavy large diameter off road wheels, lower gearing offers a tremendous advantage and makes far more difference than any spacer.
     
  18. Sep 3, 2013 at 11:39 AM
    #38
    tooter

    tooter [OP] play every day

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2013
    Member:
    #102021
    Messages:
    2,393
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Greg
    Los Angeles
    Vehicle:
    2012, std cab, 5 lug, 2.7, 5 speed
    Built for maximum low end torque, tooter II.VII intake manifold spacer, LCE long tube header, Injen long tube intake, 2,900 rpm torque peak.
    Ok. I'll add you to the list... :)
    It's important to understand that the absolute torque peak itself is not increased. That same amount of torque just becomes available at lower rpms which would be of some help when you're pulling a trailer.
     
  19. Sep 3, 2013 at 11:57 AM
    #39
    81shark

    81shark Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2008
    Member:
    #10567
    Messages:
    1,441
    Gender:
    Male
    that's the gain? pass.
     
  20. Sep 3, 2013 at 12:26 PM
    #40
    tooter

    tooter [OP] play every day

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2013
    Member:
    #102021
    Messages:
    2,393
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Greg
    Los Angeles
    Vehicle:
    2012, std cab, 5 lug, 2.7, 5 speed
    Built for maximum low end torque, tooter II.VII intake manifold spacer, LCE long tube header, Injen long tube intake, 2,900 rpm torque peak.
    That's fine. It's always good to know that your expectations aren't met before you buy anything. :thumbsup: This is just a simple bolt on part. Forced induction will give you the power that you want. That will meet your expectations.

    This shows exactlly what gains are. Just 2 ftlbs. more torque at the peak, and the torque peak comes on 250 rpm lower.

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2013
To Top