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FEELER: Baja Suspension for Sale

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by alegav, Sep 10, 2013.

  1. Sep 11, 2013 at 12:53 PM
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    monkeyface

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    The adjustability, I can see that as an advantage. The custom valving is already done by TRD and Bilstein to suit exclusively the Tacoma 4WD access cab and DCSB, they have stiff compression and quick rebound which is what you want. It's well tuned for the truck at all four corners, IMO. And seeings how Bilstein revalved the shocks on-site during testing I imagine they're rebuildable. Probably have to send them to Bilstein, not a DIY, so that's an advantage for Fox, King.

    As for staying cooler, the front resis are nice, but really you'd have to push the truck hard for a lot of miles offroad to feel a fading difference. It's not worth the additional cost. And that's the bottom line - $$$$. I didn't buy the Baja Tacoma, all I did was add the suspension onto my SR5 for $1609 shipped. Fox, King OEM replacements, they're more expensive for very little increase in actual offroad performance IMO. The numbers just aren't there in terms of additional wheel travel, better damping or rebound from Fox, King, or Icon to justify the additional dollars.

    I apologize if I derailed the thread, I'm just tired of MWOAP (and his minions) when he doesn't know jackcrap about the Baja suspension.
     
  2. Sep 11, 2013 at 1:01 PM
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    the travel numbers aren't all that different for sure, but there is a difference. not as important for higher speeds, since that's where valving is what makes a good setup over travel, but when you start crawling, half an inch can make or brake a line.
     
  3. Sep 11, 2013 at 1:03 PM
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    I know enough info on the Baja suspension to know it is crap and how Toyota dupes people into buying 40k dollar truck. :facepalm:
     
  4. Sep 11, 2013 at 1:04 PM
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    that's the sound my phone makes when i get a text :laugh:
     
  5. Sep 11, 2013 at 1:07 PM
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    The Baja setup is a good set up for those guys who just want to off road occasionally but from reading on the forum I have found icons kings and fox are better
     
  6. Sep 11, 2013 at 1:09 PM
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    I disagree, it might be "crap" in comparison to the aftermarket but its way better then the stock setup on the Tacoma's. For off roaders like me its great. I didn't have extra money for tires, rims suspension etc when I bought my truck BUT I wanted to do some light off roading. This truck catered to me perfectly. I will give you the expensive factor that's for DAMN sure.
     
  7. Sep 11, 2013 at 1:11 PM
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    :popcorn: can this thread get any better :rofl:
     
  8. Sep 11, 2013 at 1:22 PM
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    i don't think i'd call it crap compared to the aftermarket. even though the bilstien shock it was adapted from is a little more advanced, i would compare it to an OME setup as far as durability and longevity goes (i mean that in a good way). what differentiates it from the OMEs is that it is valved for a better high speed handling, and for use with lower spring rate coils. this gives you that nice mix of on and off road performance. then to top it off, you have the reserviors. she chock body of the bajas is not quite the size of the aftermarket coilovers, and is steel, so those will lower the cooling factor in comparison, but then the resis come into play. i wouldn't be surprised if the bajas cool in a similar nature to, or even better than, a non-resi K/I/F.

    I think toyota has unintentionally filled the aftermarket gap between OME and full blown coilovers. i believe that package is a good 50/50 split between the two as far as both performance and price go.

    The issue, like with anything offroad, is to know your equipment, and know what it is capable of. the perfect example of such knowledge not being used was when raptor owners bend their frames. gread truck, but people didn't acurately know the limits based on the equipment.
     
  9. Sep 11, 2013 at 1:23 PM
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    I know right...
     
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    Colin, it's already tuned right out of the box by TRD. For 2012+ 4WD Tacoma AC and DCSB's exclusively. From what I've read lifts over 2" seem to play havoc with the nannies. That was an additional consideration for me. The front Eibach springs are 650 lbs, so they can handle some additional weight and the sway bar doesn't interfere at all, so the handling will maybe suffer some with additional weight, but not much compared to other front suspensions.

    Yeah, the kit is designed for 32's maximum. 265/75/16's or 275/70/17's.

    And yeah, the price difference was certainly a consideration for me. You get a lot of bang for the buck with the Baja kit (aftermarket).
     
  11. Sep 11, 2013 at 1:46 PM
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    right, i realize that it''s tuned well from the factory, so if your intentions are to stay otherwize stock, you're good to go. for comparison though, my truck is at almost 6000 lbs, and to try to throw this thing around at speed with the baja valving would have me on my lid in no time. I do agree, i'm not a fan or big lifts. i only sit at 1'' lift right now and it works great for me.
     
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    I didnt have 5k in my pocket to go out and buy all the parts is what I was trying to say. I was however able to finance the baja :)
    I'd have to look at my sticker to give you an accurate cost.
    Great information here

    Thank you!
     
  13. Sep 11, 2013 at 2:00 PM
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    a big chunk of that is that you're a single cab 2.7. double cab 4.0 will start out a good bit heavier. add a plate bumper instead of tube, winch, full (steel) skids, wrap around rear bumper vs a standard, heavy bed rack, heavy roof rack, 35s, and a boatload of gear, and you'll get up towards 6k pretty quick
     
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    Cmon man, not really. If I'm worried about a rock that's 12" tall vs the 11" I have now at the BudBuilt skid plates, I'll pile some rocks under the tires to get that extra clearance, make a ramp. If there's a big hole, I'll pile some rocks into it to get a good line. You get your ass out of your truck and move some loose rocks around. The object isn't to see how big of a rock you can crawl over, the object is to get to your destination as cleanly as possible, that's how I look at it.
     
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    There is a dealership in NC that sells the baja suspension (front springs, front shocks, and rear shocks) for $1500, I dont think shipping or tax was included with that either. So $1500 +shipping+tax.
     
  16. Sep 11, 2013 at 2:11 PM
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    Nah, you don't know enough. You talk a lot, but you don't know enough.
     
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    exctly. i'm nit talking about sliding on a skid or having to stack rocks vs a clean route. i'm talking about rolling your truck vs making it home safe to your family.

    the more you wheel and push yourself and the vehicle, the more you'll see the smallest of differences come into play. additionally, I do a lot of solo wheeling. Wheeling turns into a whole differnt animal at that point. a simple "pull me off this rock" or "put the winch on my slider so i don't roll" no longer exists. making a line on the first try becomes 100 times more important when you are alone, and a self recovery is low on the list of things you want to do.
     
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    Just wait and see, buttface. I kid, I kid. :)

    With only about 3000 or so Baja suspension equipped trucks on the road, and maybe 50% or so serious offroaders, there's not a lot of minions to get an opinion from.
     
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    Again, Colin it's not a lower coil spring rate, it's 650 lbs/inch. It would be nice to have front resis but again the $$$$ factor comes into play. The key words are $$$ and aftermarket.
     
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