1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

FFS Let's all stop referencing the Magnussen Moss Act......

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by skiploder, May 16, 2019.

  1. May 16, 2019 at 6:46 PM
    #101
    MtnFisher

    MtnFisher Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2019
    Member:
    #283385
    Messages:
    1,025
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    ZeroDrift
    Location: Behind enemy lines for now
    Vehicle:
    2019 Tacoma TRD ACLB V6 MT
    Currently running Nittos with "ghetto" wheels
    The OP was in the right place at the wrong time when the manufacturer rep spotted his Cooper in the dealer shop. Not his fault, just a jerk rep wanting to deny him his warranty. Could happen to any of us...........
     
    daltondrose likes this.
  2. May 16, 2019 at 6:51 PM
    #102
    MtnFisher

    MtnFisher Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2019
    Member:
    #283385
    Messages:
    1,025
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    ZeroDrift
    Location: Behind enemy lines for now
    Vehicle:
    2019 Tacoma TRD ACLB V6 MT
    Currently running Nittos with "ghetto" wheels
  3. May 16, 2019 at 9:23 PM
    #103
    17trdoffroadbel

    17trdoffroadbel Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2018
    Member:
    #246666
    Messages:
    454
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    Turd Gen
    It would be a horrible mistake to buy either a Mini (routinely makes the lists of most unreliable cars) or BMW (expensive and unreliable, and has turned into a car for punks and chicks).
     
  4. May 16, 2019 at 9:31 PM
    #104
    TurdGenTuRDOffRoad

    TurdGenTuRDOffRoad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2017
    Member:
    #234322
    Messages:
    82
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2017 TRD Off Road 4x4
     
    17trdoffroadbel likes this.
  5. May 16, 2019 at 9:39 PM
    #105
    hiPSI

    hiPSI Laminar Flow

    Joined:
    May 21, 2017
    Member:
    #219544
    Messages:
    6,914
    Gender:
    Male
    South Carolina
    Vehicle:
    2019 Toyota Tundra 4WD Crew Cab 5.7L Limited with TRD Off Road Package and Cement
    Great post man. I have been trying to tell people this for years but... I am an engineer not a lawyer. I think you might make people think twice lol.
    I have been an expert witness in countless cases and I see what happens. Best thing people can do? Buy exactly what you want and don't mod it. Buy a beater and mod ot if you must.
     
  6. May 16, 2019 at 9:47 PM
    #106
    Stocklocker

    Stocklocker Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2017
    Member:
    #219125
    Messages:
    9,247
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    17TRDORDCSBAT
    When shit goes wrong, I know what to do.

     
  7. Jun 2, 2019 at 3:38 PM
    #107
    r1200gs4ok

    r1200gs4ok Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2016
    Member:
    #194111
    Messages:
    1,734
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    O. K.
    Irvine, Ca
    Vehicle:
    2016 Tacoma TRD Sport DCLB w/ Tech, Nav, Tow Pkg, MGM
    100% correct......the only BMW to have is their Motorcycles.......the cars are crap and unreliable
     
    17trdoffroadbel and Boghog1 like this.
  8. Jun 3, 2019 at 9:32 AM
    #108
    17trdoffroadbel

    17trdoffroadbel Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2018
    Member:
    #246666
    Messages:
    454
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    Turd Gen
    My brother drove a very recent 425i when he was in his "buy a more expensive car to attract women" phase. Of all the German cars out there, the BMW had the lowest quality interior by far, something that other people also say, but I hadn't personally verified as I was never interested in bimmers. He ended up with a GTI that was 4k off due to the dieselgate nonsense, and is quite happy with it.
     
  9. Jun 11, 2019 at 12:09 PM
    #109
    rzgkane

    rzgkane Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2012
    Member:
    #88082
    Messages:
    699
    Gender:
    Male
    Huntington Beach, CA
    Vehicle:
    2019 Tacoma TDR Sport 4WD DCLB - Cement - Tech and Premium
    4Runner Trail wheels and Toyo Open Country ATII tires 265-70-17. Cosmetic stuff like Pro grille and OffRoad black bumper trim, vinyl delete on side, added hood graphic, OEM tube steps.
    Truth be told, there are consumers all over the country who are prevailing every day in MMWA cases and having their attorney fees paid by the losing manufacturer.
     
    daltondrose likes this.
  10. Jun 11, 2019 at 6:50 PM
    #110
    skiploder

    skiploder [OP] Personally holding a grudge against Falken

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2017
    Member:
    #228160
    Messages:
    1,194
    Gender:
    Male
    Under a piece of wood
    Vehicle:
    Taco/4Runner/FZJ80
    I am not Nostradamus if so I would have been able to retire years ago.

    I bought the vehicle in second model year.
     
  11. Jun 22, 2019 at 2:49 PM
    #111
    Aldo98229

    Aldo98229 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2019
    Member:
    #290072
    Messages:
    1,470
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Aldo
    Bellingham, Washington
    Vehicle:
    2019 Tacoma TRD Off-Road
    I am waiting for Nostradamus to start posting here one of these days.
     
    TacoBella likes this.
  12. Jun 22, 2019 at 7:13 PM
    #112
    MikeyMcFly

    MikeyMcFly This is heavy, Doc.

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2012
    Member:
    #84551
    Messages:
    4,679
    Gender:
    Male
    I'm a Masshole
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD Off-Road 6MT / 1999 Corvette 6MT
    Building a Broja
    I ran into that with my 2G. I was having the rear suspension TSB done because I had the shimmy and I was hoping to get the TSB leafs out of the deal. They had done the part prior to the leafs and the dealer told me they'd set me up with a rental car but the rep needed to approve it. She came in, saw my ARB bumper and denied me anything further.

    Went to a different dealer after I threw the lift on because my transmission was shifting wonky (the TC clunk) and the dealer replaced it under warranty without issue. While this isn't relevant to the M-M act, it's just an anecdote to corroborate your comment.
     
  13. Jul 2, 2019 at 10:55 PM
    #113
    daltondrose

    daltondrose Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2018
    Member:
    #273703
    Messages:
    519
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dalton
    Forest Grove, OR
    Vehicle:
    2019 Tacoma TRD Pro Voodoo Blue, 2008 FJ MT Sand Storm / White
    • Victory 4x4 front Strike Bumper • Warn Winch Zeon 10 Synthetic • White Knuckle Offroad Rock Rails • Prinsu Full Rack System front and rear • ARB On Board Twin Air Compressor • Nitro 5:29 gears w ARB Air Lockers • 315 70/17 BFG KM3 • 17” Wheels KMC XD with Matching Spare • Decked Storage System • SnugTop Canopy with Windoors • Expedition One Rear Bumper with Dual Swing Outs • Baja Designs Rock Lights • Switch Pros SP 9100 • Victory 4x4 LED Light Bar • Front Baja Designs Driving Lights • Rear Baja Designs Flood Lights • Body Mount Chop (installed by Accessory Outfitters in Aloha, OR) • OME Rear LEAF Springs (soon Deaver Stage III w/ Archive Hammer Hanger) • Ride Rite Airbag System with Daystar airbag free floating cradle • Tailgate panel, Black Mountain Hatch • Tacoma Bed Stiffeners, Chaos Fab • Spindle Gusset, Chaos Fab • ICON 2.5 (58735c FR / 57805P RR) Suspension
    First, OP is your dog a Staffy?

    Second, wrong place wrong time! Shitty situation, sorry.

    Third, always own two suits! Funerals and interviews.

    Finally, Ive found that dealerships want to do warranty work, modified or otherwise, as it is paid for by the manufacturer not the dealership.

    People need to learn to make relationships which in turn creates trust vs. threatening with lawsuits, trying to reference Acts, etc.

    Friends like to do good things for each other, not the other way around.

    Great post and thanks for sharing.
     
  14. Jul 2, 2019 at 11:01 PM
    #114
    daltondrose

    daltondrose Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2018
    Member:
    #273703
    Messages:
    519
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dalton
    Forest Grove, OR
    Vehicle:
    2019 Tacoma TRD Pro Voodoo Blue, 2008 FJ MT Sand Storm / White
    • Victory 4x4 front Strike Bumper • Warn Winch Zeon 10 Synthetic • White Knuckle Offroad Rock Rails • Prinsu Full Rack System front and rear • ARB On Board Twin Air Compressor • Nitro 5:29 gears w ARB Air Lockers • 315 70/17 BFG KM3 • 17” Wheels KMC XD with Matching Spare • Decked Storage System • SnugTop Canopy with Windoors • Expedition One Rear Bumper with Dual Swing Outs • Baja Designs Rock Lights • Switch Pros SP 9100 • Victory 4x4 LED Light Bar • Front Baja Designs Driving Lights • Rear Baja Designs Flood Lights • Body Mount Chop (installed by Accessory Outfitters in Aloha, OR) • OME Rear LEAF Springs (soon Deaver Stage III w/ Archive Hammer Hanger) • Ride Rite Airbag System with Daystar airbag free floating cradle • Tailgate panel, Black Mountain Hatch • Tacoma Bed Stiffeners, Chaos Fab • Spindle Gusset, Chaos Fab • ICON 2.5 (58735c FR / 57805P RR) Suspension
    I love my Mini S and my 1200 GSA... JUST SAYIN’.

    If I may, my LR DISCOVERY WAS A POS!
     
  15. Jul 2, 2019 at 11:05 PM
    #115
    daltondrose

    daltondrose Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2018
    Member:
    #273703
    Messages:
    519
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dalton
    Forest Grove, OR
    Vehicle:
    2019 Tacoma TRD Pro Voodoo Blue, 2008 FJ MT Sand Storm / White
    • Victory 4x4 front Strike Bumper • Warn Winch Zeon 10 Synthetic • White Knuckle Offroad Rock Rails • Prinsu Full Rack System front and rear • ARB On Board Twin Air Compressor • Nitro 5:29 gears w ARB Air Lockers • 315 70/17 BFG KM3 • 17” Wheels KMC XD with Matching Spare • Decked Storage System • SnugTop Canopy with Windoors • Expedition One Rear Bumper with Dual Swing Outs • Baja Designs Rock Lights • Switch Pros SP 9100 • Victory 4x4 LED Light Bar • Front Baja Designs Driving Lights • Rear Baja Designs Flood Lights • Body Mount Chop (installed by Accessory Outfitters in Aloha, OR) • OME Rear LEAF Springs (soon Deaver Stage III w/ Archive Hammer Hanger) • Ride Rite Airbag System with Daystar airbag free floating cradle • Tailgate panel, Black Mountain Hatch • Tacoma Bed Stiffeners, Chaos Fab • Spindle Gusset, Chaos Fab • ICON 2.5 (58735c FR / 57805P RR) Suspension
    I’m offended! :rofl:
     
  16. Jul 3, 2019 at 5:19 AM
    #116
    skiploder

    skiploder [OP] Personally holding a grudge against Falken

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2017
    Member:
    #228160
    Messages:
    1,194
    Gender:
    Male
    Under a piece of wood
    Vehicle:
    Taco/4Runner/FZJ80
    We had a staffy bull, brindle and white, who lived to the ripe old age of 16....the dog in my profile pic is our current patterdale terrier....14 lbs of pure terror.

    I can’t even tie a tie. I actually had a salesman tie one for me 25 years ago and and I’ve been loosening and tightening it as needed since then.
     
  17. Jul 3, 2019 at 9:08 AM
    #117
    daltondrose

    daltondrose Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2018
    Member:
    #273703
    Messages:
    519
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dalton
    Forest Grove, OR
    Vehicle:
    2019 Tacoma TRD Pro Voodoo Blue, 2008 FJ MT Sand Storm / White
    • Victory 4x4 front Strike Bumper • Warn Winch Zeon 10 Synthetic • White Knuckle Offroad Rock Rails • Prinsu Full Rack System front and rear • ARB On Board Twin Air Compressor • Nitro 5:29 gears w ARB Air Lockers • 315 70/17 BFG KM3 • 17” Wheels KMC XD with Matching Spare • Decked Storage System • SnugTop Canopy with Windoors • Expedition One Rear Bumper with Dual Swing Outs • Baja Designs Rock Lights • Switch Pros SP 9100 • Victory 4x4 LED Light Bar • Front Baja Designs Driving Lights • Rear Baja Designs Flood Lights • Body Mount Chop (installed by Accessory Outfitters in Aloha, OR) • OME Rear LEAF Springs (soon Deaver Stage III w/ Archive Hammer Hanger) • Ride Rite Airbag System with Daystar airbag free floating cradle • Tailgate panel, Black Mountain Hatch • Tacoma Bed Stiffeners, Chaos Fab • Spindle Gusset, Chaos Fab • ICON 2.5 (58735c FR / 57805P RR) Suspension
    Ha! Thank GOD the Marine Corps taught me a few useful skills for life to include how to tie a tie. Beautiful dog. I have had two Staffy's (currently on my second).

    Hurley Girl:

    Screen Shot 2019-07-03 at 9.05.14 AM.jpg
     
    SandyTaco4x4 and Inferno! like this.
  18. Sep 3, 2019 at 1:35 PM
    #118
    daltondrose

    daltondrose Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2018
    Member:
    #273703
    Messages:
    519
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dalton
    Forest Grove, OR
    Vehicle:
    2019 Tacoma TRD Pro Voodoo Blue, 2008 FJ MT Sand Storm / White
    • Victory 4x4 front Strike Bumper • Warn Winch Zeon 10 Synthetic • White Knuckle Offroad Rock Rails • Prinsu Full Rack System front and rear • ARB On Board Twin Air Compressor • Nitro 5:29 gears w ARB Air Lockers • 315 70/17 BFG KM3 • 17” Wheels KMC XD with Matching Spare • Decked Storage System • SnugTop Canopy with Windoors • Expedition One Rear Bumper with Dual Swing Outs • Baja Designs Rock Lights • Switch Pros SP 9100 • Victory 4x4 LED Light Bar • Front Baja Designs Driving Lights • Rear Baja Designs Flood Lights • Body Mount Chop (installed by Accessory Outfitters in Aloha, OR) • OME Rear LEAF Springs (soon Deaver Stage III w/ Archive Hammer Hanger) • Ride Rite Airbag System with Daystar airbag free floating cradle • Tailgate panel, Black Mountain Hatch • Tacoma Bed Stiffeners, Chaos Fab • Spindle Gusset, Chaos Fab • ICON 2.5 (58735c FR / 57805P RR) Suspension
  19. Nov 11, 2019 at 7:59 PM
    #119
    Vo0Do0

    Vo0Do0 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2019
    Member:
    #309930
    Messages:
    432
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2020 VooDoo Blue Tacoma TRD Off-Road
    First, I know this thread is old.. however it is pinned and I am answering a direct question that I did not see anyone else answer AND I have a question that relates to this topic...

    I *believe* it would cover any modification the selling dealer performed.. I am no expert and not trying to give advice just the extended warranty contract for Toyota specifically states:

    "All manufacturer-original equipment parts installed by the manufacturer or your selling dealer are are cover under this agreement for the mechanical failure. Unless otherwise excluded..." And it lists all the normal wear and tear stuff after that
    Now I did specifically ask my selling dealer if I opted for them to put a lift kit on my Tacoma if it would be covered and they stated it would be IF I did the Toyota OEM lift kit which consists of Bilstein shocks front and back and I think he said add-a-spring to the rear.

    My question, does this sound correct? I do not want to do something that might come to bite me down the road. I want to do light off-road and weekendlander'ing
     
  20. Feb 5, 2020 at 7:49 AM
    #120
    P-Dawg

    P-Dawg Factory 2 Seater

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2020
    Member:
    #317755
    Messages:
    432
    First Name:
    Pete
    Chicago
    Vehicle:
    2020 SR AC MGM Utility Pckg.
    When I worked at a dealership the guys used to laugh when people brought in a modified vehicle and claimed it had to be Warranty because of the Magnusson Act. People would threaten Lawsuits until they realized how expendive Lawyers are. The Warranty covers the vehicle they sold, not the one you built. Yes, a 4 inch lift and 50% bigger tires wear things out faster. Have fun battling a Dealership, they’re more experienced than you and probably have a better lawyer. To be fair they didn’t care if you got different wheels etc. as long as they were close to stock.
     
    Last edited: Feb 5, 2020

Products Discussed in

To Top