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FFS Let's all stop referencing the Magnussen Moss Act......

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by skiploder, May 16, 2019.

  1. Dec 21, 2020 at 1:54 PM
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    .jake

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    Dang OP, a partner for two years and still only had one suit to wear to court? That's messed up mang! Lol.

    I'm fighting a battle with a local dealer that's chased out my super annoying front end clanking/squeaking noise for tens of thousands of miles, never find anything, naturally, even though any and every dip will produce it. Last time they blamed the lift. I guess they were out of ideas. I reminded them it made the sounds when it wasn't lifted. They're like, prove it. I told them to pull surveillance. After we measured dicks one more time I caved and left. Theirs was bigger. <sigh>
    This sticky was a good read. Thanks
     
  2. Dec 21, 2020 at 3:38 PM
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    • Victory 4x4 front Strike Bumper • Warn Winch Zeon 10 Synthetic • White Knuckle Offroad Rock Rails • Prinsu Full Rack System front and rear • ARB On Board Twin Air Compressor • Nitro 5:29 gears w ARB Air Lockers • 315 70/17 BFG KM3 • 17” Wheels KMC XD with Matching Spare • Decked Storage System • SnugTop Canopy with Windoors • Expedition One Rear Bumper with Dual Swing Outs • Baja Designs Rock Lights • Switch Pros SP 9100 • Victory 4x4 LED Light Bar • Front Baja Designs Driving Lights • Rear Baja Designs Flood Lights • Body Mount Chop (installed by Accessory Outfitters in Aloha, OR) • OME Rear LEAF Springs (soon Deaver Stage III w/ Archive Hammer Hanger) • Ride Rite Airbag System with Daystar airbag free floating cradle • Tailgate panel, Black Mountain Hatch • Tacoma Bed Stiffeners, Chaos Fab • Spindle Gusset, Chaos Fab • ICON 2.5 (58735c FR / 57805P RR) Suspension
    Did they install the lift?
     
  3. Dec 21, 2020 at 6:47 PM
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    Nope.
     
  4. Dec 21, 2020 at 8:06 PM
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    Damn. Sorry Buddy.
     
  5. Dec 22, 2020 at 1:18 PM
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    I know. When they lost interest in looking any further and just blamed the lift I knew they played their best card. It's OK though. I'm not out of Toyota dealers in the area.
     
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  6. Aug 6, 2021 at 5:06 AM
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    The moral of this story is don't mod your vehicle that is still under warranty as the Dealers will use it against you when it comes to issues. Just saying wait till all the warranties are done then do all mods you want.
     
  7. Sep 5, 2021 at 10:49 AM
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    This is an EXCELLENT thread and well deserved of being a sticky. People are so quick to play the "I'll get my lawyer involved" card when things don't go their way without realizing the reality of the situation. Anyone with a reasonable amount of business experience will just say "sorry you feel that way but if that's what you feel you have to do, go ahead". Then people are shocked when they actually do go to a lawyer and he/she asks them for a $5k retainer to get the case started.

    Everyone needs to remember that when you tune your truck, lift it, or do any other modification not specifically authorized and performed by Toyota, you are doing so at your own risk when your truck is under warranty.
     
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  8. Sep 15, 2021 at 10:49 AM
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    You can file a civil suit on your own for a small fee. That alone would cause some motivation.

    You’d be surprised how much you can do on your own without a lawyer, you really only need one when it goes to formal litigation but even corporations don’t want that. That’s why so many settle.

    I really just depends, I’ve thrown out M-M and it’s motivated the dealer so for every bad experience there is a good one.
     
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  9. Sep 15, 2021 at 11:19 PM
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    Unfortunately any claim for relief under Mag-Moss would be filed in Federal court where there is no small claims. The initial filing fee is $400 (depending on district), assuming you know how to write the complaint and cover sheet and are familiar with the rules of Federal civil procedure and procedures for the particular district where you are filing. It's not something that's easy to do yourself like small claims court.
     
  10. Oct 14, 2021 at 8:03 AM
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    MM act lawsuit threat (printed out and showed the dealer) got me a new transmission after the warrantee company refused me for a week. To say that the MM act has no value is a mistake.
     
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  11. Dec 17, 2021 at 6:24 PM
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    Glad I went with the dealer installed toyota approved trd lift
     
  12. Dec 22, 2021 at 2:57 PM
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    me too. Maybe I should leave my bumpers alone haha
     
  13. Dec 22, 2021 at 3:31 PM
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    Yep will leave mine alone till the 3/36 is up
     
  14. Dec 22, 2021 at 3:56 PM
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    I used to work for BMW/Mini Cooper. You didn't dare own one of those cars out of warranty. For the customers that bought used and declined any warranty coverage...:rolleyes:. I remember we had 5 used mini's come in the same week for replacement engines. Low mileage cars too. I recall at least one of those customers had no warranty and stilled owed significantly on the car (like 12k-15K!). I'm not sure if he rolled the outstanding balance into a new Mini or paid for the repairs out of pocket and then dumped the car for something else.

    They do handle extremely well and are fun for short trips though. Would I buy one...NOPE. Brand new Land Rovers/Range Rovers used to come in on flat bed tow trucks regularly too. Always had computer related problems.

    Lexus and Toyota were always the most reliable used cars on our lot and still drove like new with 50k miles on them compared to the other makes and models.:rofl:
     

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