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Figuring out what's needed for the rear

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Jc4x4, Mar 5, 2020.

  1. Mar 5, 2020 at 5:40 AM
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    Jc4x4

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    I know this is asked alot, but I am still a little confused and just want to get it right the first time.

    I am trying to lift my truck 2.5 to 3 inches and I am going to go with bilstein 5100 all around with ome 885 coils with LR control arms. I am just having trouble figuring out exactly what I need for rear. An aal or a leaf pack. I dont havr consistent weight in rear, but I do tow a 24ft boat every week in the summer and load the rear with firewood throughout the year.

    2014 double cab 4x4 sr5

    Thank you for all help and recommendations
     
  2. Mar 5, 2020 at 7:02 AM
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    Take a measurement from the center of the wheel hub straight up to the edge of the fender. Stock measurements for the rear is suppose to be 21.5. Knowing yours is a 2014, we've seen people in the grey area where half were fine measuring 21.5 so they go with an AAL, but under 21.5 by an inch like 20.5 I would just replace them.
     
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  3. Mar 5, 2020 at 7:05 AM
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    Medium duty Dakars. If that's not enough you can always add the extra leaf to make it HD.

    Stock leafs are junk and adding anything to it will simply be a bandaid until you're forced to upgrade the leaf pack. Do it once, do it right.
     
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  4. Mar 5, 2020 at 7:50 AM
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    I was looking at those, but I thought I saw they were for a consistent load of like 300lbs. Would they ride fine if the bed was empty majority of time?
     
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  5. Mar 5, 2020 at 8:07 AM
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    I'll put it this way, my HD Dakars ride smoother and more comfortable than my stock leafs with a single AAL. And they tow and haul better than the stock leafs and AAL.

    Towed once with the single AAL and it caused sag and made the rear end ride like a dump truck.
     
  6. Mar 5, 2020 at 8:13 AM
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    Perfect sold me thank you
     
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    In my experience OME mediums ride fine empty and will sag a bit with significant cargo. Adding one leaf to make them heavies is OK but I found the ride bouncy more than what I'd call harsh empty. I was using OME shocks with them at the time so tuning the ride with shocks might tame that a little. Adjustable shocks would have been nice to have though.
     
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  8. Mar 6, 2020 at 4:29 PM
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    The 5100s are only good for 1” of lift in the rear, they’ll tolerate 2” but more than that you may want a different shock for the rear.
     
  9. Mar 6, 2020 at 4:56 PM
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    Jc4x4

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    I got extended for rear
     
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  10. Mar 6, 2020 at 5:29 PM
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    Exactly what I did . MD Dakar’s a couple years ago and my AAL is going in Tuesday.
     
  11. Mar 6, 2020 at 5:32 PM
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    Bilstein 6112s top setting ,Total Chaos UCAs ,1/4" top plate spacer driver side ,SS extended brake lines ,Old Man Emu Medium Duty Dakar leaf springs with AAL,OME carrier bearing shim , Bilstein 5125s for 2-3” of lift in rear ,Timbren SES bump stops , SS extended brake lines rear , Toytec dif drop , Hayden high performance transmission fluid cooler,aFe pro dry air filter .Baja amber driving combo ditch lights , Devil horns by Andres ,Weathertecs floor protector, American Racing wheels Baja 17x8,4.5 BS , 285/70 Falken Wildpeaks AT/3W .Body Armor rear bumper . Extra D rings in bed ,Blue sea fuse block and 100amp breaker ,HomerTaco custom grill in Super White , TRD radiator cap ,Birddawg Industries rear view mirror riser bracket ,Coverking NeoSupreme Mossy Oak seat covers , Paranoid Fabrications fuse /relay holder Painted pinch weld.Shorty antenna ,HVAC knob mod ,LED dome and map lights , Tri Fold bed cover ,UltraGauge ,Morimoto XB LED fog lights ,Energy Suspension poly body bushings and sway bar bushings ! Geartech Customs splash guards ,Salex center console organizer . Mobtown tailgate cap ,tailgate anti theft mod .X-Mat sound deadening/insulation cab floor . Mobtown weld on rock sliders 0* with kickout Raptor lined . ,NEW frame courtesy of Toyota !
    5125s for 2-3” lift is what I’m using!
     
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  12. Mar 6, 2020 at 5:35 PM
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    My question is how do I know if I will need the axle shims :confused: . Because if I get a vibe after the AAL is installed I would have to take everything apart to get a shim in . If I put the shim in with the AAL maybe it will make vibrations :notsure:
     
  13. Mar 6, 2020 at 5:39 PM
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    From what I have read you just have to lift and see. Might get lucky and no vibes. First time lifting a vehicle so I'm not sure either
     
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    I’m already lifted almost 3” and have just a slight steering wheel vibe between 47-51 mph but I can live with that . Just have to wait and see I guess .:fingerscrossed:
     
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  15. Mar 6, 2020 at 5:48 PM
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    You too :hattip: :fingerscrossed:
     
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    Good general rule of thumb is 1* for each inch of lift.
     
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